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Schematic and layout simulation in PCB

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Hi,

I wanted to know of two things:

* Is post layout simulation done in PCBs (like as it is done for ICs)

** Is there any tool suite for doing both schematic and layout based simulations (preferably free tools).


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Arvind Gupta.
 

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Is there any tool suite for doing both schematic and layout based simulations (preferably free tools
Some EDA tools for SCH/PCB design has the Signal Integrity feature, but in general this takes into account just a simplified model of the board with the extracted parasitic characteristics. For a more detailed analysis, you should consider tools which are more like 3D field solvers, but do not perform the simulation integrated with the firmware itself. As far as I know, there are nice solutions provided by CAD software manufacturers, but not cheap.
 

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OK... can you pls. name a few commercial tools for post layout simulations... both 3D solvers and ones doing simulations with extracted parasitics.

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Zuken, Mentor and Cadence all have these tools available, as to free I doubt they would be much use, this is a case of you get what you pay for.
Used the Zuken tools a lot in the past to simulate mainly high speed interfaces to check the layout (DDR memory etc.)
 

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Zuken, Mentor and Cadence all have these tools available, as to free I doubt they would be much use, this is a case of you get what you pay for.
Used the Zuken tools a lot in the past to simulate mainly high speed interfaces to check the layout (DDR memory etc.)



For Cadence Suite: didi you mean orcad suite? Pls. confirm

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