Schematic and layout simulation in PCB

[garvind25]

Hi,

I wanted to know of two things:

* Is post layout simulation done in PCBs (like as it is done for ICs)

** Is there any tool suite for doing both schematic and layout based simulations (preferably free tools).


Thank You.

Arvind Gupta.

 

[andre_luis]

Is there any tool suite for doing both schematic and layout based simulations (preferably free tools

Some EDA tools for SCH/PCB design has the Signal Integrity feature, but in general this takes into account just a simplified model of the board with the extracted parasitic characteristics. For a more detailed analysis, you should consider tools which are more like 3D field solvers, but do not perform the simulation integrated with the firmware itself. As far as I know, there are nice solutions provided by CAD software manufacturers, but not cheap.

 

[garvind25]

OK... can you pls. name a few commercial tools for post layout simulations... both 3D solvers and ones doing simulations with extracted parasitics.

Thanks,
Arvind Gupta.

 

[andre_luis]

Take a search on Mentor Graphics solutions in their website: https://www.mentor.com/pcb/xpedition/simulation

 

[marce]

Zuken, Mentor and Cadence all have these tools available, as to free I doubt they would be much use, this is a case of you get what you pay for.
Used the Zuken tools a lot in the past to simulate mainly high speed interfaces to check the layout (DDR memory etc.)

 

[garvind25]

Zuken, Mentor and Cadence all have these tools available, as to free I doubt they would be much use, this is a case of you get what you pay for.
Used the Zuken tools a lot in the past to simulate mainly high speed interfaces to check the layout (DDR memory etc.)

For Cadence Suite: didi you mean orcad suite? Pls. confirm

Thanks,
Arvind

 

[marce]

Cadence Orcad its the same thing go do some leg work...