i can keep up as long as i need to.wow.. this topic is going into crazy land. hope you can keep up!
Mr.Cool
I watched your video, now it's your turn:
123jack, yes time is an abstract concept.. especially when you consider the traditional definition. but i would point out that energy is not defined properly either, as it is also vague.
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Mr.Cool
Anyhow, it’s not bloody physics ..
It always was , even if not in it's current form ... therefore it did not need to be created in order to exist if it has always existed in some form.
Those who believe in a 'creator' already accept the eternal existence concept ... what created the 'creator' ? ... What created the creator of the creator ... etc... etc... if the 'creator' can always have existed ... than you have accepted that it is possible for something to have always existed without being created... if you think the 'creator' has not always existed , and was not created , than that leaves you back with thinking the creator came spontaneously from nothing without being created.
a buttload of itWhat science is in the bible?
jack
How to make/create energy ?
Thank you :smile:
G od spoke it into existence.
Speaking itself needs energy.
No - I asked for science.
You keep claiming the bible is full of "science"
I am asking for one single example of science.
Surely you can simply give a book, chapter and paragraph number
of an example. It is after all broken into parts for such a purpose.
Just one is all.
jack
I'm sure coming up with some energy will have been no problem for Zeus. I mean, did you see that lightning bolt?
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How can you even ask such a thing jack?
Of course the bible is chock full of science. Ask the roman catholic church, they are pretty good with that sort of thing(*). Humanity is at the center of the universe! Also, the earth is flat! Because the scientifically correct bible says so. You say otherwise? Well, The Happy Church [tm] is granted authority by G0d Himself (R) to happily burn you at the stake, chop your head of (happily), or both. Because after all the bible is G0d's word, therefore right. So anyone doubting any of it must therefore be a deviant deserving to be put to death on the spot.
What's that you say? We can prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the earth is actually round? We can no longer dodge the issue by burning a couple more heretics? Are you sure, we still have plenty firewood! And the earth is also not flat you say? No problem! That is what the bible said all along! Look, it says so right here in this here passage that the earth is round! Also, general relativity and the standard model, right here! It must just have been those fallible prideful humans that got it wrong, not G0d Himself (R). Obviously!
For such an omnipotent being G0d sure has a lot of trouble communicating clearly. If I didn't believe this creation myth over the other ones I would almost be inclined to think that it's just written by a bunch of people, because the lack of coherence and I dunno, facts, sure looks a tiny bit human. Good thing then that I do believe this creation myth over all the other ones. *phew*
(*) and by "that sort of thing" I mean "after the fact revisionist bullshit".
hope that clears things up. ;-)
When will you step into the world of science ?
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