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Dear all,

I met a confused DC timing log.
The slack calculation resault is very confused.

I list it as followed,

****************************************
Report : constraint
-all_violators
-verbose
Design : SPI_CTRL
Version: 2003.06-2
Date : Fri Sep 22 13:52:57 2006
****************************************


Startpoint: MODE_SEL (input port)
Endpoint: ADC_SEL_tmp_reg
(rising edge-triggered flip-flop clocked by DCLK')
Path Group: DCLK
Path Type: min

Des/Clust/Port Wire Load Model Library
------------------------------------------------
SPI_CTRL WL1K comnlsc06v10

Point Incr Path
-----------------------------------------------------------
clock (input port clock) (rise edge) 0.00 0.00
clock network delay (ideal) 0.00 0.00
input external delay 0.00 0.00 f
MODE_SEL (in) 0.00 0.00 f
U174/Z (OR02D1) 0.30 0.30 f
U98/Z (ORA21D1) 0.50 0.79 f
U172/Z (MX02D2) 0.55 1.34 f
ADC_SEL_tmp_reg/D (DFCRB1) 0.00 1.34 f
data arrival time 1.34

clock DCLK' (rise edge) 250.00 250.00
clock network delay (ideal) 0.00 250.00
ADC_SEL_tmp_reg/CP (DFCRB1) 0.00 250.00 r
library hold time 0.07 250.07
data required time 250.07
-----------------------------------------------------------
data required time 250.07
data arrival time -1.34
-----------------------------------------------------------
slack (VIOLATED) -248.73
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~

The definition of slack is "data required time - data arrival time".
Why the slack is -248.73? It should be 248.73!

Can anyone explan this case?
 

Hi ,
I am more like a FE so please correct me if i am wrong .

YOu are doing a Hold check
so slack = - ( data required - data arrival)

Few observations in the report .
1) No External delays for I/P port

Do you define this as a Multicylce path ?
I am seeing Hold check after 1cycle , this is reported only if you declare this as a MCP other wise data required should start from 0.0 ?

please change your constraints if you declare this as a MCP ?
If so you have positive slack of 1.27

Thanks & Regards
Y . Laxmi Narayana

kjtom said:
Dear all,

I met a confused DC timing log.
The slack calculation resault is very confused.

I list it as followed,

****************************************
Report : constraint
-all_violators
-verbose
Design : SPI_CTRL
Version: 2003.06-2
Date : Fri Sep 22 13:52:57 2006
****************************************


Startpoint: MODE_SEL (input port)
Endpoint: ADC_SEL_tmp_reg
(rising edge-triggered flip-flop clocked by DCLK')
Path Group: DCLK
Path Type: min

Des/Clust/Port Wire Load Model Library
------------------------------------------------
SPI_CTRL WL1K comnlsc06v10

Point Incr Path
-----------------------------------------------------------
clock (input port clock) (rise edge) 0.00 0.00
clock network delay (ideal) 0.00 0.00
input external delay 0.00 0.00 f
MODE_SEL (in) 0.00 0.00 f
U174/Z (OR02D1) 0.30 0.30 f
U98/Z (ORA21D1) 0.50 0.79 f
U172/Z (MX02D2) 0.55 1.34 f
ADC_SEL_tmp_reg/D (DFCRB1) 0.00 1.34 f
data arrival time 1.34

clock DCLK' (rise edge) 250.00 250.00
clock network delay (ideal) 0.00 250.00
ADC_SEL_tmp_reg/CP (DFCRB1) 0.00 250.00 r
library hold time 0.07 250.07
data required time 250.07
-----------------------------------------------------------
data required time 250.07
data arrival time -1.34
-----------------------------------------------------------
slack (VIOLATED) -248.73
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~

The definition of slack is "data required time - data arrival time".
Why the slack is -248.73? It should be 248.73!

Can anyone explan this case?
 

    kjtom

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clock DCLK' (rise edge) 250.00 250.00
clock network delay (ideal) 0.00 250.00
ADC_SEL_tmp_reg/CP (DFCRB1) 0.00 250.00 r
library hold time 0.07 250.07
data required time 250.07

HI,

Check u r clock period...whats u r time unit?

beacuse u r data arrival time is around "1.34"....and u r clock cannot be "250.07"...usually u can add some buffers in the place and route to remove u r slack but i think u have specified u r clock period in the wrong manner....check the time unit used in u r technology library?

Regards,
dcreddy
 

    kjtom

    Points: 2
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