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# Why VSWR value change when keep the close ground(floor)?

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#### emreer3442

##### Newbie
Hello everyone, last night i was testing my 145MHz Yagi antenna for VSWR value. I realized something stupid. When I was keeping the antenna close to ground, VSWR value was changing. Also, I stanted in front of the antenna same thing was happen. I search about that on internet but i am not be satisfied. If any one know the reason about this, could you tell me please. I will be really appriciated. Thanks a lot.

Very much a f() of wave propagation in a non free space environment.
One would apply Maxwell's laws and boundary conditions to solve.

Regards, Dana.

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### emreer3442

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#### emreer3442

##### Newbie

Very much a f() of wave propagation in a non free space environment.
One would apply Maxwell's laws and boundary conditions to solve.

Regards, Dana.
Thanks for your reply danadakk, but I still not understand exactly. Could you tell a bit simply? And what is f()?

Thanks for your reply danadakk, but I still not understand exactly. Could you tell a bit simply? And what is f()?
f() = function of

### emreer3442

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#### BigBoss

VSWR or Input Impedance of an Antenna is also a function of Boundary Conditions of that antenna.
So it's very normal because the Ground is the Mirror of the Antenna in regard of EM Theory.

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### emreer3442

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#### D.A.(Tony)Stewart

changing from what to what?
with what?

#### FvM

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The general answer is simple: Any objects (conducting, dielectric or lossy) within the near field range of an antenna will affect its input impedance and radiation characteristic. The ground distance of a dipole must be e.g. above 2 wavelengths to keep the impedance variation below 10%.

### emreer3442

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#### vfone

I realized something stupid. When I was keeping the antenna close to ground, VSWR value was changing.
Therefore, if the VSWR doesn't change when you move the antenna close to the grond, THEN is a problem..

#### D.A.(Tony)Stewart

The antenna is bidirectional, and the near-field reflection of weak signals opposes the transmitted voltage and increases current, thereby reducing impedance and raising the VSWR relative to ideal.

This is also what makes it a great motion detector if you have a directional coupler and very sensitive DMM on a Schottky signal diode in the return path for more than 10 wavelngths.

#### volker@muehlhaus

Think of your setup as a radar system: you get the internal reflection (in the antenna) plus the reflection from any objects where you point the antenna.

If you point the antenna in the sky, there are no reflecting objects and then you see the internal reflection (=antenna matching) only.

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