nxing said:v_naren said:The absolute fundamental for RFIC is only analog circuit methods.
Since in RFIC there is nothing like distributed effect...you dont use transmision lines or microstrips or something like smith charts to design your ciruits....so there is nothing magically different from analog ic design since the size is basically small enough to use good old lumped element techniques...anyway I think
1) The design of CMOS RFICs by Thomas H. Lee from SMIRC
2) RF Microelectronics by Behzad Razavi are quite stupid..oops...simple enough for an analog ic design expert to start designing the so called totally different LNAs and mixers!!!
on the other hand...if you want to truly learn the beautifully diofferent design methods and tricks and techniques and want to drown yourself in smith chart based methods then you should definitely read
1) Microwave transistor amplifiers by Gonzalez
2) Microwave engg by David M. Pozar
3) The recent two volumes on microwave circuit design by Les Besser
these 4 books are very very good to learn "REAL RF/MW" design methods which the discrete RF/MW and integrated MW(NOT RFIC) designers still use!!!
happy learning
Hi v_naren,
Would you please kindly specify the links of the last two books you mentioned above?
Thanks
v_naren said:The absolute fundamental for RFIC is only analog circuit methods.
Since in RFIC there is nothing like distributed effect...you dont use transmision lines or microstrips or something like smith charts to design your ciruits....so there is nothing magically different from analog ic design since the size is basically small enough to use good old lumped element techniques...anyway I think
1) The design of CMOS RFICs by Thomas H. Lee from SMIRC
2) RF Microelectronics by Behzad Razavi are quite stupid..oops...simple enough for an analog ic design expert to start designing the so called totally different LNAs and mixers!!!
on the other hand...if you want to truly learn the beautifully diofferent design methods and tricks and techniques and want to drown yourself in smith chart based methods then you should definitely read
1) Microwave transistor amplifiers by Gonzalez
2) Microwave engg by David M. Pozar
3) The recent two volumes on microwave circuit design by Les Besser
these 4 books are very very good to learn "REAL RF/MW" design methods which the discrete RF/MW and integrated MW(NOT RFIC) designers still use!!!
happy learning
yuezi said:v_naren said:The absolute fundamental for RFIC is only analog circuit methods.
Since in RFIC there is nothing like distributed effect...you dont use transmision lines or microstrips or something like smith charts to design your ciruits....so there is nothing magically different from analog ic design since the size is basically small enough to use good old lumped element techniques...anyway I think
1) The design of CMOS RFICs by Thomas H. Lee from SMIRC
2) RF Microelectronics by Behzad Razavi are quite stupid..oops...simple enough for an analog ic design expert to start designing the so called totally different LNAs and mixers!!!
on the other hand...if you want to truly learn the beautifully diofferent design methods and tricks and techniques and want to drown yourself in smith chart based methods then you should definitely read
1) Microwave transistor amplifiers by Gonzalez
2) Microwave engg by David M. Pozar
3) The recent two volumes on microwave circuit design by Les Besser
these 4 books are very very good to learn "REAL RF/MW" design methods which the discrete RF/MW and integrated MW(NOT RFIC) designers still use!!!
happy learning
thanks a lot!
I am studying on the books you recommended.
but quite slow, little progress.
should i study the books as well as making designs at the same time?
where to begin?
In my personal opinion, I feel that the normal way is the best way.....read your basics and then solve the problems in the back of every chapter and all and then if you cannot afford to construct an RF LNA using the superb theoretical techniques then atleast u can use a simulator to virtually construct your design to get a partial satisfaction that you have really constructed an LNA which is working at a blazingly high frequency of 5GHz or something.....the softwares such as @DS and cadence or MW office or APLAC help u in varying extents for the same also....so read ur basics and dont play with your simulator....dont play games in design.....read and design on paper and then simulate to check if your ideas or check how well ur theoretical design produces the expected results via the simulation...
[/quote]ArchAngel said:In my personal opinion, I feel that the normal way is the best way.....read your basics and then solve the problems in the back of every chapter and all and then if you cannot afford to construct an RF LNA using the superb theoretical techniques then atleast u can use a simulator to virtually construct your design to get a partial satisfaction that you have really constructed an LNA which is working at a blazingly high frequency of 5GHz or something.....the softwares such as @DS and cadence or MW office or APLAC help u in varying extents for the same also....so read ur basics and dont play with your simulator....dont play games in design.....read and design on paper and then simulate to check if your ideas or check how well ur theoretical design produces the expected results via the simulation...
Start the simulation is quiet easy, but how about the models used with simulation.
RF Design is hot, and inmature, so how can i get the models.
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