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Second hand PCB software: Such thing exists?

Please, recommend me obsolete PCB schematic and layout software that can still be used nowadays.

(requirement: capable to export schematic into Altium, OrCAD, or PADS).
 

eagle can export to Altium both PCB and Schematic,
strange question second hand software most licences are not transferable, why do you need second hand software if you want to import it into altium or orcad/pads ????
 

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Wizpic, because I just only want to make the schematic design, and send this schematic to professional layout company (or freelancer). I don´t need layout, just only schematic entry.

Do a google search at "case C‑128/11". In European Union software can be resold even if license agreement prohibits further transfer.
 

If you want to make the schematic and sent it to someone else to do the board then you are better off using the software that they use.

Conversions never go well, they are fraught with problems, errors and can take a lot longer etc.

Talk to your PCB people, you may be able to get a cheap or hired version of the schematic software.
 
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Mattylad, the companies which I have been talking to use Altium, Orcad and PADS.

I asked them and they cannot give me a cheap version. Also the EDA distributors don't sell cheap versions of obsolete products (is not good for their business). And 30-day trial versions or demo versions is not an option for me.

Wizpic, I would avoid to use eagle for the reasons that Mattylad said.

pradeep.g.belchada, which protel version? 99 SE, DXP, DXP 2004 ...?

What would be a fair price for those old versions?
 

You are getting your boards made by companies that use obsolete products??

If they are obsolete then perhaps your using the wrong PCB Bureaux?

I guess you only want to be able to give them a schematic to read and a netlist to import?

Can you give them paper drawings or drawings from a free cad package and them redo it in their software?
 

No. I want to use obsolete (and maybe cheap) but compatible software for schematic.

They will use their latest version and experience to make layout.

I can not give them paper drawings or other cad formats as they are only layout companies.
 

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No. I want to use obsolete (and maybe cheap) but compatible software for schematic.

They will use their latest version and experience to make layout.

I can not give them paper drawings or other cad formats as they are only layout companies.
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If they are doing layout they should be able to enter a schematic copying it form a paper copy, if not then they are a suspect company IMO
 

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If they are doing layout they should be able to enter a schematic copying it form a paper copy, if not then they are a suspect company IMO
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I agree. If I'm doing layout, I'd much rather take a paper and make the schematic than transfer it from another program. Less chance of error ;)
 

Please, could you explain further? suspicious for what? I am curious.

As I said before they are only a LAYOUT company. I think they just don't want to lose time, and also they don't want to take responsibility for schematic design. That's all.
 

I think it is safer to supply a schematic and netlist to avoid the risk of drawing errors. Have you looked at Kicad? I don't use it but it is free.

Keith
 
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Keith, The company I am talking to is a "little" picky (or lazy). They doesn't want to bother with netlist and conversions. They asked me for a schematic that Altium, OrCAD or PADS could directly import.
 

OK I see now, so what you are after is an older version of Altium, Orcad or Pads.

Or what you need to know is what software can provide an output that can be read into the above programs.

Unfortunately I suspect that they have software agreements that restricts their resale, I cannot find them on ebay etc so I think your going to need to look on sites like this, ask and hope someone has one to sell.
How much were you thinking of paying?
There are other companies that will take your paper copy and make the schematic or whole pcb.
 

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You should change the company that is so picky. Such company SHOULD have at least one person that could transfer your "paper" schematic in the "electronic" form that can be used by the layout people. (and, of course, charge you for their time).
 

Have you tried eagle this you can export this to altium I have used it once and it give me no errors on transfer how big is your design ?
I've done this type of work before from paper for some one else and the way I worked it was double check my layout then sent it them in PDF format for them to check because if the schematic is correct the PCB will be correct so basicily you put the responsability on them because they the ones who checked it and passed it. If they want the work they would do it
 

Accidently, I believe Altium 14 now accepts Eagle and Eagle is pretty much free...
 

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