Continue to Site

Welcome to EDAboard.com

Welcome to our site! EDAboard.com is an international Electronics Discussion Forum focused on EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals... and a whole lot more! To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.

Help with flicker noise - clear explanation needed

Status
Not open for further replies.

kidmanbasha

Member level 1
Joined
May 25, 2007
Messages
39
Helped
3
Reputation
6
Reaction score
1
Trophy points
1,288
Activity points
1,587
flicker noise infinite

Since flicker noise is inversely propotional to the noise frequency, the noise is infinity at DC. What I didn't understand from EE240 Elad Alon and even Razavi's book is that it requires a long time to see the infinite noise and so on. Can anybody please give me a clear explanation for this? Thanks
 

Help with flicker noise

In order to find (i.e. measure its effect) 1Hz noise, you need at least 1 second. For 1mHz 1000 seconds, for 1µHz nearly 12 days. And for "DC noise" (0Hz) eternally.
Few people can wait so long ;-)
HTH! erikl
 
Re: Help with flicker noise

As you go lower in frequency the bandwidth declines. I have read one scientific paper published many decades ago that reported 1/f noise at a measurement time of days or was it years. One of my Caltech friends claims that 1/f noise exists in all areas, such as mechanics. There is a small but finite probability that the legs of the chair you are sitting on will extend (from 1/f noise) and push your head into the ceiling.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top