JocJ
Newbie level 2
I have a problem with a LG OS 5020C oscilloscope, its the same as LG OS 5020 but with component tester.
You can find some block diagram on page 56 in the manual:
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/ezdigital/pdf/os5020-5020c_manu.pdf
All I can tell is that suddenly the intensity, the horizontal adjustment and the channels didnt work anymore.
I really cant remember what I did before its failure, it worked fine, I tested some quartz oscillators and some batteries. Suddenly it didnt work anymore.
I googled and found two posting of people who got exactly the same problem:
https://www.electronicspoint.com/threads/connected-my-oscilloscope-up-backwards.268276/
https://charliexray.blogspot.de/2010/07/osciloscopio-goldstar-os-9020p.html
The second link is from a Spanish guy who has a slightly different oscilloscope, but its from the same manufacturer and the voltages he measured on the mainboard are exactly the same like the voltages I measured.
There are some checkpoints on the mainboard where the voltages are printed on the board, this is what I measured on these points:
checkpoint (measured value)
140V (12V)
212V (270V)
56V (22V)
12V (12V)
-12V (-12V)
5V (5V)
I dont really understand how he did repair his oscilloscope or what the problem was, it seems that he inserted some resistor into the power supply to correct the voltages.
Well, my power supply looks ok, nothing seems to be damaged. I also own a LG OS 5020 oscilloscope, the version without component tester. The power supply and the transformer are exactly the same (same IDs printed on them), so I opened it and switched the power supply and also the transformer with the ones from the faulty oscilloscope. It worked fine and the measured voltages were like they should be. So I think it cant be the power supply or the transformer which is faulty. The error must come from the mainboard.
So I measured many soldering joints and put the values into a graphic, this is what it looks like:
mainboard:
**broken link removed**
**broken link removed**
I also made a graphic for the power supply so you can see what's going on there.
power supply:
**broken link removed**
**broken link removed**
The bigger colored values are the ones which I measured with a multimeter against ground. The white values are the ones which I measured on the working oscilloscope against ground. The mainboards of the two oscilloscopes are nearly the same, the layout slightly differs but the printed values/descriptions are the same.
I dont really understand all those values, the thing I wonder most about is that "140 V RTN" pin on the power supply. Does it mean "return voltage"? And why is that voltage negative? I measured -56V on "+140 VRTN" pin of the working oscilloscope.
The power transistor on the left is mounted onto the chassis for cooling, it's not as hot as the one in the working oscilloscope, probably not much current flowing there.
Datasheet of the power transistor:
**broken link removed**
So my problem now is that I dont know where to look for the source of all those wrong values. I dont know which path to trace. Where does it start? It seems like a loop to me. It also looks like the DC voltage from the mainboard seems to influence the AC voltage of the power supply.
Any help is appreciated. Maybe there are even some schematics on the net? I found this topic but there is nothing to download: https://www.edaboard.com/threads/60536/
I believe it's possible to repair that thing somehow
You can find some block diagram on page 56 in the manual:
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/ezdigital/pdf/os5020-5020c_manu.pdf
All I can tell is that suddenly the intensity, the horizontal adjustment and the channels didnt work anymore.
I really cant remember what I did before its failure, it worked fine, I tested some quartz oscillators and some batteries. Suddenly it didnt work anymore.
I googled and found two posting of people who got exactly the same problem:
https://www.electronicspoint.com/threads/connected-my-oscilloscope-up-backwards.268276/
https://charliexray.blogspot.de/2010/07/osciloscopio-goldstar-os-9020p.html
The second link is from a Spanish guy who has a slightly different oscilloscope, but its from the same manufacturer and the voltages he measured on the mainboard are exactly the same like the voltages I measured.
There are some checkpoints on the mainboard where the voltages are printed on the board, this is what I measured on these points:
checkpoint (measured value)
140V (12V)
212V (270V)
56V (22V)
12V (12V)
-12V (-12V)
5V (5V)
I dont really understand how he did repair his oscilloscope or what the problem was, it seems that he inserted some resistor into the power supply to correct the voltages.
Well, my power supply looks ok, nothing seems to be damaged. I also own a LG OS 5020 oscilloscope, the version without component tester. The power supply and the transformer are exactly the same (same IDs printed on them), so I opened it and switched the power supply and also the transformer with the ones from the faulty oscilloscope. It worked fine and the measured voltages were like they should be. So I think it cant be the power supply or the transformer which is faulty. The error must come from the mainboard.
So I measured many soldering joints and put the values into a graphic, this is what it looks like:
mainboard:
**broken link removed**
**broken link removed**
I also made a graphic for the power supply so you can see what's going on there.
power supply:
**broken link removed**
**broken link removed**
The bigger colored values are the ones which I measured with a multimeter against ground. The white values are the ones which I measured on the working oscilloscope against ground. The mainboards of the two oscilloscopes are nearly the same, the layout slightly differs but the printed values/descriptions are the same.
I dont really understand all those values, the thing I wonder most about is that "140 V RTN" pin on the power supply. Does it mean "return voltage"? And why is that voltage negative? I measured -56V on "+140 VRTN" pin of the working oscilloscope.
The power transistor on the left is mounted onto the chassis for cooling, it's not as hot as the one in the working oscilloscope, probably not much current flowing there.
Datasheet of the power transistor:
**broken link removed**
So my problem now is that I dont know where to look for the source of all those wrong values. I dont know which path to trace. Where does it start? It seems like a loop to me. It also looks like the DC voltage from the mainboard seems to influence the AC voltage of the power supply.
Any help is appreciated. Maybe there are even some schematics on the net? I found this topic but there is nothing to download: https://www.edaboard.com/threads/60536/
I believe it's possible to repair that thing somehow