the p+ resistor in analog design

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Hi,
We used the p+ resistor in our design. We know there are some parasitic reversed pn junction capacitance for p+resistor. I want to know is it this parasitcic junction capacitance has been included in the spice model? i.e., the pre-layout design has considered this effect when spice simulation?


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hi,
yes the parasitic junction capacitance is considered in prelayout simulation.
 

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not only for the p+ resistor , all the components parasites are included in the prelayout simulation as icecaps.
 

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Hi, omsi
thanks for the reply!

I replaced the p+resistor with an ideal resistor and redo the simulation, but found the bandwidth has no any descrepancy. The p+resistor is the load of the diff pair. As my understanding, the parasitic pn capacitance should affect the bandwidth if it is inclueded in simulation.

Have you any idea?
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You can call your process admin to provide you the parasitic parameter .Good Luck!
 

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It depends on the model. You can view the model file to find whether the parasitic junction is included. Chances are junction capacitance is not included, but voltage coefficient is include.
 

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if you have P+ resistor model, it should be included in spice model
 

alenhan said:
if you have P+ resistor model, it should be included in spice model

I checked my P+resistor, it just contains the voltage and temperature parameter,no parasitic capaciatne included, just as Hughes said.

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