# New low-cost FPGA family...

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#### Jackal

Altera's new low-cost fpga family Cyclone! 1.5$- 1000Le Max:20000Le ) #### Ace-X ##### Advanced Member level 2 Seems that you are from Altera's fun club! ;-) The volume production of these FPGAs will start in 2004 only. And that is citate from EETimes concern to prices: "Looking at the pricing model, it's clear too that these devices were not made for piecemeal orders. Prices next year will range from$60 to $7, depending on the number of logic elements, assuming purchases of 50,000-unit quantities or more. When volume ramps in 2004, prices will range from$40 to $4 based on 250,000-unit quantities, according to the company." Full story is available here: http://www.eetimes.com/semi/news/OEG20020923S0015 Ace-X. #### TurboPC ##### Advanced Member level 4 Just a small correction: production will start in Q2 of 2003. Samples will be available as soon as January 2002 depending on the devices. I got an informal quotation for the 5800 logic element device for 24$ USD in the 1000 quantity for Q3. Could go as low as 14$in 2004. It is more 4$ per 1000 LE than 1.50$! However, I was told that the serial EEPROM price will be 1$ more than the announced price (ie 2$to 5$) for the same quantity. It is a bit encouraging.

They are trying to get back some market lost to Xilinx. It is said they will match any price Xilinx will make, because they have margins...

#### Jackal

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Hi All!

http://www.altera.com/products/devices/cyclone/cyc-index.jsp
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With up to four times the density than previous low-cost device families and volume prices at less than $1.50 per 1,000 LEs, Cyclone devices set a new pricing standard for programmable logic. //-- This is from Altera's website. //-- At this moment i know (from our Altera's distributor) that correct prices on Cyclone devices are will be avaible at Q4 2002. Prelimenary prices are avaible on Altera's chart http://www.altera.com/products/devices/cyclone/images/cyc-index_fig1.gif #### ejean ##### Junior Member level 3 see the link below http://www.x!l!nx.com/prs_rls/silicon_spart/02140spartan_40mil.htm$2.55 for 5,000 system gates, $17.95 for the 300,000 system gates in volumes greater than 250,000 units. Regards, Ejean #### Bartart ##### Full Member level 2 Hi ! As I know Xilinx will offer a new low cost FPGA in the 1Q or 2Q 2003 replacing Spartan family. New FPGA will be based on Virtex2 technology. The price is unknown. Bart #### DeepIC ##### Member level 3 Hi, how do you know it ? from www.xilinx.com ? where can i find this news? Bartart said: Hi ! As I know Xilinx will offer a new low cost FPGA in the 1Q or 2Q 2003 replacing Spartan family. New FPGA will be based on Virtex2 technology. The price is unknown. Bart #### Bartart ##### Full Member level 2 Hello! Every 6 months the "me*ec in*ight" has a FPGA demonstration in my region and in March the guy said that the Xilinx is working on a new low cost family. The only question that he didn't answer me was "What about SpartanXL". Bart #### pissant ##### Junior Member level 3 SpartanXL is dead. That's why it isn't supported in ISE 5.1 #### TurboPC ##### Advanced Member level 4 ejean said: see the link below http://www.x!l!nx.com/prs_rls/silicon_spart/02140spartan_40mil.htm$2.55 for 5,000 system gates, \$17.95 for the 300,000 system gates in volumes greater than 250,000 units.

Regards,
Ejean
Your are not comparing apples with apples!

I don't want to look like a pro-Altera (because I use both Altera & Xilinx depending on the application), but it is clear that Altera just take the pole position in terms of cost/logic ratio until Xilinx comes out with its new family. Good for them. Good for us.

#### arbalez

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