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I have read numerous posts on this site and others around the meaning and interpretation of phase margin. This is something I didn't question much in school, but I find myself now wanting a better understanding. Most explanations of phase margin seem to revolve around two arguments:
1) When the open loop gain Aβ has a real value of -1, then the closed loop transfer function A / (1 + Aβ) is infinity!
2) Feedback becomes positive at -180 degrees phase shift, and so any open loop gain greater than 0db at anywhere greater than -180 degrees phase shift causes instability.
My question is this: is it ONLY the special #1 case (EXACTLY -1 for a value of Aβ that causes infinite gain) that causes instability, or is it the more general #2 case? Let me rephrase another way: if I was able to implement an Aβ network that exhibited a constant phase delay across all frequencies of -200 degrees, then would I see closed loop instability assuming the magnitude of Aβ is much greater than 0db?
Bonus: what about positive angles? Can I think of +10 degrees on a bode plot the same as -350 degrees? If so, if I my Aβ has a constant phase shift of +10 then does that mean my closed loop would be unstable?
I'm anxious for some wisdom from the group
1) When the open loop gain Aβ has a real value of -1, then the closed loop transfer function A / (1 + Aβ) is infinity!
2) Feedback becomes positive at -180 degrees phase shift, and so any open loop gain greater than 0db at anywhere greater than -180 degrees phase shift causes instability.
My question is this: is it ONLY the special #1 case (EXACTLY -1 for a value of Aβ that causes infinite gain) that causes instability, or is it the more general #2 case? Let me rephrase another way: if I was able to implement an Aβ network that exhibited a constant phase delay across all frequencies of -200 degrees, then would I see closed loop instability assuming the magnitude of Aβ is much greater than 0db?
Bonus: what about positive angles? Can I think of +10 degrees on a bode plot the same as -350 degrees? If so, if I my Aβ has a constant phase shift of +10 then does that mean my closed loop would be unstable?
I'm anxious for some wisdom from the group