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Is it possible to do a complete latch based digital design for an ASIC ??

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Is it possible to do a complete latch based digital design for an ASIC ??
 

Re: Latch based design

ya it's possible to design a latch based digital circuit
but from implementation point of view in FPGA or ASIC
timing analysis may be critical
 

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Re: Latch based design

Thanx for the info, Is there any company currently in latch based digital designing ??
 

Re: Latch based design

there are some companies working in this field
but it's there proprietry design
so it's not possible to mention as i don't know about it
 

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Re: Latch based design

If latch based design are difficult to analyze by timing analysis tools are there any tools specifically for timing analysis of latch based designs ??
 

Re: Latch based design

Companies proprietry tools are available for timing analysis
but as they are proprietry they are not availabel to all and i don't think that any one have that information about that tools
but it's critical to analyse asynchrnous circuit
 

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Re: Latch based design

Hi ,

Latch based designs give better timing & performance because of its clocking nature ,but the area overhead will be more.

Latch based LSSD design concept is propreitry of IBM & they had their own tools to handle it.Recently few of its tools are taken over by Cadence .The one I know is encounter test architect .

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Chandhramohan
 

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Latch based design

As i know that LSSD at test encounter is for latch dft. And have nothing about latch design and latch timing analyse.
 

Re: Latch based design

Hi ,
When the dft implemented is latch based ,which I mean all the scan elements are Latch'es , then the design is also Latch based design .For implementing dft logic encounter test architect is used .

I'm not sure which tool is used for Timing analysis for a Latch based design .

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Chandhramohan
 

Re: Latch based design

can any one know about LSSD i.e Level Sensitive Scan Design??????
 

Re: Latch based design

complete latch based design is possible,

but it will require multiphase clock.

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abhikohli said:
Is it possible to do a complete latch based digital design for an ASIC ??
 

Re: Latch based design

It is time and labor consuming to do latch-based ASIC.
There are processors design with latches. But it is full customed.
 

Latch based design

If your design includes asynchronous logic, I suggest that you use latch to do some logic about interface, but I can not believe a full latched chip which does not use Dff triggers
 

Re: Latch based design

aniketd said:
ya it's possible to design a latch based digital circuit
but from implementation point of view in FPGA or ASIC
timing analysis may be critical

chandhramohan said:
Hi ,

Latch based designs give better timing & performance because of its clocking nature ,but the area overhead will be more.

Latch based LSSD design concept is propreitry of IBM & they had their own tools to handle it.Recently few of its tools are taken over by Cadence .The one I know is encounter test architect .

Regards
Chandhramohan

so it has problems in timing analysis and also area overhead...okays
but someone said that it needs multiplephase clock...i'm confused somehow...isn't this latch based design...so it's asynchronous...???
 

Latch based design

don't use latches as much as possible.
 

Latch based design

Latch based design is usually used for implementation of high performace circuit such as datapath of high performace CPU.
 

Re: Latch based design

Hi ,
The latch based designs are not intended for specific type of logic or design , it can be used in any application .The clocking scheme will be pretty complicated because of multiphase clock input to the latches .

This latch has two latches inside , one acting as master & other one as slave .This latch is controlled by minimum of 3 clocks ( A,B,C ) .This is one of the many type of latches.There are some latches which acts like D-FF .

For simple understanding you can see the doc attached below .

Regards
Chandhramohan
 

Latch based design

It is possbile. But timing is a very important problom to deal with.
 

Latch based design

ARM Inc. has purchased an IP company so to own an IP which is full latch based design.
 

Re: Latch based design

CPU-designers (Intel, AMD, TI, etc.) have used asynchronous-design strategies to achieve very specific performnace goals, but that's in the territory of PhD and other advanced engineers...not for 'average' persons :)

For example, the Intel Pentium/4 contained a large portion of 'self-resetting domino' gate-layouts in the speed-critical ALU/datapath. Intel also had an army of engineers to conduct the design/layout/verification of that block of logic, and it's no easy job.

Do a google.com search for 'Pentium self-resetting domino' -- there are a few overviews on the web. To get more detailed papers, you'll need an IEEE or ISSCC subscription.
 

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