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How to determine the exact value of intrinsic and extrinsic parameters from simulated graph?

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I already simulated the intrinsic and extrinsic parameters but I do not know how to determine the exact value. Can anyone please help me or give me any reference that I can refer to? I also attached several parameters that I have obtained .
 

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These parameters are for what? a single transistor? what is Cpg, Ri and tau? Gm for a circuit or what?
 

Thank you for your reply. Yes, for a single transistor. The Cpg is the extrinsic parameter, as shown in the figure I attached below. Ri and tau are the intrinsic parameters. And Gm is for the small signal analysis of the transistor. I also attached the setup for intrinsic and extrinsic parameters.
 

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It looks like an ADS setup for hybrid device. This is not area of my best knowledge :) . But I cannot understand your question anyway. What do you mean by determining the exact value?
 
Yes, yes I'm using ADS. I'm trying to figure out how to determine the exact value of those parameters based on the simulated graph. For example like in the paper I attached below, there are simulated graphs, and the writer able to obtain the exact value of each parameters.
 

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