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27 MHz RF detector with LED output

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I'm trying to create a 27 Mhz RF detector with LED output. Can anyone provide me with schematics or give any tips?
 

Maybe just an LC circuit tuned to 27MHz, and a diode and capacitor, much like the old crystal radio designs? Feed the output to a meter to see the signal level, or to a comparator (might need some amplification beforehand) to trigger an LED at a particular level.

That's probably the simplest...
 
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Then it gets a little more complicated.
Google for AD8307 and LM3914, there are some circuits that use those components, that will do what you
need. Stick a tuned circuit and antenna, or a filter in front, for the frequency of interest, otherwise it will pick up signals from a wide bandwidth.
 

Then it gets a little more complicated.
Google for AD8307 and LM3914, there are some circuits that use those components, that will do what you
need. Stick a tuned circuit and antenna, or a filter in front, for the frequency of interest, otherwise it will pick up signals from a wide bandwidth.

antenna for that band would be problematic because of its size is too big for a small portable device, IMO. any sugestions on that?
 

What range are you looking for? A few metres? It doesn't have to be a particularly efficient antenna to pick up RF at close range.
It may work without an antenna.
If you want it for longer range, then the circuit you're looking for is a 27MHz receiver, not a 27MHz RF detector.
 

What range are you looking for? A few metres? It doesn't have to be a particularly efficient antenna to pick up RF at close range.
It may work without an antenna.
If you want it for longer range, then the circuit you're looking for is a 27MHz receiver, not a 27MHz RF detector.

so basically at close range i can pick RF with resonant LC network and maybe 10 cm long cooper wire as an antenna?
 

Yes, that would work.
 

i found some schematics and i would like to know if those are any good LED_sig_meter.pngSimple RF Detector for 2Mw.gif
 

The one with the AD8313 is the better circuit out of the two that you have attached, by far..

AD8307 would be more sensitive, but AD8313 will work very well too.
**broken link removed**is one using the AD8307 if you choose to go with that.

EDIT - I just checked, actually, the AD8313 isn't designed for frequencies as low as 27MHz - so go with the AD8307.
 

Thanks. That one looks good. For 27 Mhz band i should include LC network or a filter after RF input, is that right? Any other parameters that should be changed?
 

That's right. And no other parameters need changing. I think that circuit will work very well.
 

Maybe you can suggest some software for simulating that circuit?
 

A simple circuit like this can be directly built, it only consists of about 3 modules - the voltage-to-LED indicator, the log amp, and the LC circuit or filter.
You could simulate the LC circuit or filter by using any SPICE software.
The voltage-to-LED portion is so tried-and-tested, it is not worth simulating, it is about 20 years old.
 

Well i'm thinking about making PCB myself so I'll have to use some software so I think why not to simulate the circuit as well?
 

Because you're unlikely to find something that will simulate an entire circuit end-to-end, especially when you use 'exotic' ICs like the AD8307, unless AD have a SPICE simulation or similar. Besides, see the number of threads on edaboard where people simulate fine on Proteus, and then their hardware doesn't work because they had so much confidence in the simulation that they didn't even bother to provide power or reset signals to microcontrollers for instance. A simulation is good for areas of uncertainty, but you need to exercise judgement too.
People would rather simulate the important portions, e.g. the filter response for example.
 

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