Why do we use dBc/Hz as measurement unit?

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Why use dBc/Hz? Thanks in advanced!
 

dbc/hz

Because when you are measuring the power of any signal besides a perfect CW tone you have to specify the bandwidth it's measured in. If you were comparing two CW tones it would be dBc. Comparing a tone to noise must be dBc/Hz. Also, it's in dB because it's easier to add than multiply. If you want to know the thermal noise power in a 1 kHz bandwidth is simply -174 dBm/Hz + 30 dBHz = -144 dBm. That's a simple example but when you have to do a link budget with all sorts of parameters you'll see why it's easier to take logarithms and scribble the answer out on paper.
 
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dbm/hz dbc/hz

The units of dBc/Hz refer to dB below the carrier measured in
a 1-Hz bandwidth.
 

dbc add spectrum log db

wilwal said:
The units of dBc/Hz refer to dB below the carrier measured in
a 1-Hz bandwidth.
Why in 1-Hz bandwidth.
 

what is dbc

 

calculate dbc

The noise is described in frequency domain by its spectral density, expressed in watt/hertz:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_spectral_density
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectral_density

So if you need to get noise power, in a specific bandwidth, you should integrate it over frequency (calculate the spectrum area inside bandwidth).
However, spectral density vs frequency is not constant (except for white noise), so u need to know the power in a small bandwith, the smaller the better, 1Hz is appropriate. Thus u can know precisely the spectrum shape and can calculate power in a specific bandwidth.

Because spectrum is not flat, for oscillators the noise is given as dBc/Hz at x KHz offset from central frequency. An unit as dB/MHz is usefull only if the noise power is quite constant in a 1MHz bandwidth, egg thermal noise, but not for an oscillator.
 

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How to measure the noise/spur power in spectrum analyser in dBm/MHz??
 

Re: Why use dBc/Hz

Hi, srikanth_cvs, why you want to use this unit? I am just out of curious.
 

Re: Why use dBc/Hz

what kind of frequency analysar i can use?can i download the software from net?please,can u give a link?please
 

Re: Why use dBc/Hz

you can use ADS, it can calculate phase noise which unit is dBc/Hz.
 

Re: Why use dBc/Hz

that means power in db on a carrier frequency in a 1 hz bandwidth.
 

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