Feb 18, 2020 #1 M Mabrok Full Member level 4 Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 223 Helped 0 Reputation 0 Reaction score 1 Trophy points 18 Activity points 1,597 In two-tone nonlinear simulation. How much should be Fspacing? And also is it RF frequency should be the centre frequency? Note: my target frequency band 3.4-3.6 GHz. thanks
In two-tone nonlinear simulation. How much should be Fspacing? And also is it RF frequency should be the centre frequency? Note: my target frequency band 3.4-3.6 GHz. thanks
Feb 18, 2020 #2 KlausST Advanced Member level 7 Joined Apr 17, 2014 Messages 25,157 Helped 4,868 Reputation 9,757 Reaction score 5,536 Trophy points 1,393 Activity points 168,342 Hi, I'm no HF specialist, but afaik Fspacing depends on the input (data) frequency. Klaus
Feb 18, 2020 #3 pancho_hideboo Advanced Member level 5 Joined Oct 21, 2006 Messages 2,847 Helped 767 Reputation 1,536 Reaction score 733 Trophy points 1,393 Location Real Homeless Activity points 17,490 Set all frequencies inside bandwidth of DUT. Where all frequencies mean f1, f2, 2*f1-f2, 2*f2-f1.
Feb 18, 2020 #4 M Mabrok Full Member level 4 Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 223 Helped 0 Reputation 0 Reaction score 1 Trophy points 18 Activity points 1,597 pancho_hideboo said: Set all frequencies inside bandwidth of DUT. Where all frequencies mean f1, f2, 2*f1-f2, 2*f2-f1. Click to expand... How to determine f1 & f2?
pancho_hideboo said: Set all frequencies inside bandwidth of DUT. Where all frequencies mean f1, f2, 2*f1-f2, 2*f2-f1. Click to expand... How to determine f1 & f2?
Feb 18, 2020 #5 pancho_hideboo Advanced Member level 5 Joined Oct 21, 2006 Messages 2,847 Helped 767 Reputation 1,536 Reaction score 733 Trophy points 1,393 Location Real Homeless Activity points 17,490 Show me lower and upper frequencies for 1dB bandwidth of your DUT. What analysis method do you use ?
Feb 18, 2020 #6 M Mabrok Full Member level 4 Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 223 Helped 0 Reputation 0 Reaction score 1 Trophy points 18 Activity points 1,597 pancho_hideboo said: Show me lower and upper frequencies for 1dB bandwidth of your DUT. What analysis method do you use ? Click to expand... Lower frequency 3.4 GHz, Upper frequency 3.6 GHz
pancho_hideboo said: Show me lower and upper frequencies for 1dB bandwidth of your DUT. What analysis method do you use ? Click to expand... Lower frequency 3.4 GHz, Upper frequency 3.6 GHz
Feb 18, 2020 #7 pancho_hideboo Advanced Member level 5 Joined Oct 21, 2006 Messages 2,847 Helped 767 Reputation 1,536 Reaction score 733 Trophy points 1,393 Location Real Homeless Activity points 17,490 What analysis do you use ? HB or Tran ? f0=(3.4GHz+3.6GHz)/2=3.5GHz BW=0.2GHz, BW/3=0.0666GHz I choose delta_f=50MHz < BW/3 (1) standard case f1=f0-delta_f/2 f2=f0+delta_f/2 (2) allevitated case f2=f0-delta_f f1=f2-delta_f or f1=f0+delta_f f2=f1+delta_f Last edited: Feb 18, 2020
What analysis do you use ? HB or Tran ? f0=(3.4GHz+3.6GHz)/2=3.5GHz BW=0.2GHz, BW/3=0.0666GHz I choose delta_f=50MHz < BW/3 (1) standard case f1=f0-delta_f/2 f2=f0+delta_f/2 (2) allevitated case f2=f0-delta_f f1=f2-delta_f or f1=f0+delta_f f2=f1+delta_f
Feb 18, 2020 #8 M Mabrok Full Member level 4 Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 223 Helped 0 Reputation 0 Reaction score 1 Trophy points 18 Activity points 1,597 pancho_hideboo said: What analysis do you use ? HB or Tran ? f0=(3.4GHz+3.6GHz)/2=3.5GHz BW=0.2GHz, BW/3=0.0666GHz I choose delta_f=50MHz < BW/3 (1) standard case f1=f0-delta_f/2 f2=f0+delta_f/2 (2) allevitated case f2=f0-delta_f f1=f2-delta_f or f1=f0+delta_f f2=f1+delta_f Click to expand... Analysis HB In this case, Is it f-spacing is 50 MHz?
pancho_hideboo said: What analysis do you use ? HB or Tran ? f0=(3.4GHz+3.6GHz)/2=3.5GHz BW=0.2GHz, BW/3=0.0666GHz I choose delta_f=50MHz < BW/3 (1) standard case f1=f0-delta_f/2 f2=f0+delta_f/2 (2) allevitated case f2=f0-delta_f f1=f2-delta_f or f1=f0+delta_f f2=f1+delta_f Click to expand... Analysis HB In this case, Is it f-spacing is 50 MHz?
Feb 18, 2020 #9 pancho_hideboo Advanced Member level 5 Joined Oct 21, 2006 Messages 2,847 Helped 767 Reputation 1,536 Reaction score 733 Trophy points 1,393 Location Real Homeless Activity points 17,490 Mabrok said: In this case, Is it f-spacing is 50 MHz? Click to expand... Yes for standard case. If you have an interest about IM5 in addition to IM3, you have to reduce delta_f. Last edited: Feb 18, 2020
Mabrok said: In this case, Is it f-spacing is 50 MHz? Click to expand... Yes for standard case. If you have an interest about IM5 in addition to IM3, you have to reduce delta_f.
Feb 18, 2020 #10 M Mabrok Full Member level 4 Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 223 Helped 0 Reputation 0 Reaction score 1 Trophy points 18 Activity points 1,597 pancho_hideboo said: Yes for standard case. If you have an interest about IM5, you have to reduce delta_f. Click to expand... I also want to ask if you have an idea about ACPR or ACLR? Can we simulate one of these parameters using HB simulation in ADS? Thanks
pancho_hideboo said: Yes for standard case. If you have an interest about IM5, you have to reduce delta_f. Click to expand... I also want to ask if you have an idea about ACPR or ACLR? Can we simulate one of these parameters using HB simulation in ADS? Thanks
Feb 18, 2020 #11 pancho_hideboo Advanced Member level 5 Joined Oct 21, 2006 Messages 2,847 Helped 767 Reputation 1,536 Reaction score 733 Trophy points 1,393 Location Real Homeless Activity points 17,490 You have to apply modulated signal for evaluation of ACLR, use envelope analysis which is time variable HB. Last edited: Feb 18, 2020
You have to apply modulated signal for evaluation of ACLR, use envelope analysis which is time variable HB.
Feb 18, 2020 #12 M Mabrok Full Member level 4 Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 223 Helped 0 Reputation 0 Reaction score 1 Trophy points 18 Activity points 1,597 pancho_hideboo said: You have to apply modulated signal for evaluation if ACLR, use envelope analysis which is time variable HB. Click to expand... Thanks alot. do you have any documented guide show how to properly use envelope analysis to obtain ACLR for power amplifier?
pancho_hideboo said: You have to apply modulated signal for evaluation if ACLR, use envelope analysis which is time variable HB. Click to expand... Thanks alot. do you have any documented guide show how to properly use envelope analysis to obtain ACLR for power amplifier?
Feb 18, 2020 #13 pancho_hideboo Advanced Member level 5 Joined Oct 21, 2006 Messages 2,847 Helped 767 Reputation 1,536 Reaction score 733 Trophy points 1,393 Location Real Homeless Activity points 17,490 See https://designers-guide.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1264078706/4#4 https://www.designers-guide.org/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1190971685/7#7 Search my very old posts.
See https://designers-guide.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1264078706/4#4 https://www.designers-guide.org/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1190971685/7#7 Search my very old posts.