TRiac dimming with PWM.

[Rohi231]

Is it possible to control the Triac with PWM which is set from Microcontroller?

 

[barry]

No. Once a triac is triggered, it will stay on for the entire cycle.

 

[SurekhaIris]

@barry,

could you please tell me can i convert TRIAC dimming into PWM dimming.

Actually IC is controlling by TRIAC dimming logic which has in built pWM dimming, and we neeed PWM logic.

Could you please guide us. or is their any logic to replace the TRIAC dimming by PWM dimming.

 

[Rohi231]

Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyway so that i can control the gate of the Triac from a micro controller?

 

[asimlink]

hello Rohi,
you can use MOC30xx series optio isolators to drive your triac through microcontrollers. you can find lots of application circuits driving AC motors, AC lamps for light intensity control etc.
Please see following links for application circuits:

1. https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/minerva2/triac.jpg
2. https://www.monografias.com/trabajos35/acoplamiento-optico/acoplamiento-optico.shtml
3. https://electronics.stackexchange.c...-do-i-need-to-amplify-an-arduinos-pwm-outputs

to make an AC dimmer you need to sense the phase of AC voltage and need to synchronize the firing of your triac with zero-crossing of AC waveform.
Hope this helps

Regards

 

[FvM]

The term PWM is ambiguous related to triac control, I think. It sometimes refers to full wave switching with variable duty cyle and several seconds period, which is the preferred method for quasi continuous heater control with solid state relays respectively triacs. As said, the on- and off-times have to be set as multiple of full waves.

The term "dimming" is primarly used for light control, which is limited to phase angle control. Lighting and small motor control (e.g. for hand tools and home appliances) are the exceptions where power quality regulations still allow phase angle control.

 

[Rohi231]

Hello asimlink & FVM.
Thanks for the reply.
I think we cac control the triac dimming by connecting the controller to the Opto coupler and adjusting the exact on & off time.
Triac gate and 1 st terminal is connected to Phase through opto coupler.
Help me if i am wrong

 

[Rohi231]

Hello Asimlink,
How to sense the phase of the ac controller. I am not getting.

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hello Rohi,
you can use MOC30xx series optio isolators to drive your triac through microcontrollers. you can find lots of application circuits driving AC motors, AC lamps for light intensity control etc.
Please see following links for application circuits:

1. https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/minerva2/triac.jpg
2. https://www.monografias.com/trabajos35/acoplamiento-optico/acoplamiento-optico.shtml
3. https://electronics.stackexchange.c...-do-i-need-to-amplify-an-arduinos-pwm-outputs

to make an AC dimmer you need to sense the phase of AC voltage and need to synchronize the firing of your triac with zero-crossing of AC waveform.
Hope this helps

Regards

Hello Asimlink,
How to sense the phase of the ac controller. I am not getting.

 

[asimlink]

To sense phase of AC voltage you will need to use a zero-crossing detector circuit such as following:
**broken link removed**

You can find lot many implementations of zero-crossing detector circuits if you search the term "zero crossing detector circuit"

You will need to connect the output of this ZCD circuit to interrupt pin of your microcontroller. In microcontroller firmware you can control the firing of Triac by
synchronizing with this zero crossing pulse. for a case of 50Hz you will get your cpu interrupted by every 10 mili seconds. Now if you turn on your triac imediately after zero crossing pulse is detected you will get 100% phase of AC. If you delay the firing of triac gate by lets say 5 mili seconds you will get 50% AC phase.

Hope this helps.

 

[irfan ahmad]

yes this is possible by one technique.

connect a bridge ractifier in serese .
+ve of bridge to a mosfet drain .
-ve of bridge to mosfet source and controll the gate from microcontroller.

have funnnnnnnnnnn.

 

[Kushal_shrestha]

how to generater phase angle control pwm in atmega32