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Is there a way to re-create the carrier when a SSB signal has the carrier completely suppressed?
I'm interested in implementing a RZSSB (Real Zero Single Sideband) reception circuit using the zero crossings and taking advantage of the possibility of using a phase noise cancellation circuit.
References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_from_zero_crossings
https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/rep/R-REP-M.2026-2001-PDF-E.pdf
If I understand correctly, using RZSSB reception can eliminate atmospheric generated amplitude noise and then if a carrier can be recreated from a received SSB signal then the phase noise in the carrier can be subtracted from the phase noise in the signal and the resultant signal's noise is limited primarily by the noise in the circuitry only.
The RZSSB schemes I've read about look like they need a small amount of carrier signal to be transmitted but if there is a way to recreate the carrier when none at all is transmitted then it ought to be possible to take advantage of the RZSSB reception noise improvements with any SSB signal.
I read that a Costas loop cannot be used with SSB to recreate the carrier but I didn't understand why not. I also read that a squaring loop, which I assume means using a squaring detector, can be used to recreate the carrier. Does this mean sending the squaring detector output through a LPF and then using the output to control a VCO LO?
Does anyone know how this works?
Are there other ways to recreate the carrier so that it contains the same phase noise as the signal?
Else, is there a way to extract just the phase noise signal without recreating the carrier?
Thanks,
73
AF5IE
I'm interested in implementing a RZSSB (Real Zero Single Sideband) reception circuit using the zero crossings and taking advantage of the possibility of using a phase noise cancellation circuit.
References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_from_zero_crossings
https://www.itu.int/dms_pub/itu-r/opb/rep/R-REP-M.2026-2001-PDF-E.pdf
If I understand correctly, using RZSSB reception can eliminate atmospheric generated amplitude noise and then if a carrier can be recreated from a received SSB signal then the phase noise in the carrier can be subtracted from the phase noise in the signal and the resultant signal's noise is limited primarily by the noise in the circuitry only.
The RZSSB schemes I've read about look like they need a small amount of carrier signal to be transmitted but if there is a way to recreate the carrier when none at all is transmitted then it ought to be possible to take advantage of the RZSSB reception noise improvements with any SSB signal.
I read that a Costas loop cannot be used with SSB to recreate the carrier but I didn't understand why not. I also read that a squaring loop, which I assume means using a squaring detector, can be used to recreate the carrier. Does this mean sending the squaring detector output through a LPF and then using the output to control a VCO LO?
Does anyone know how this works?
Are there other ways to recreate the carrier so that it contains the same phase noise as the signal?
Else, is there a way to extract just the phase noise signal without recreating the carrier?
Thanks,
73
AF5IE
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