Welcome to EDAboard.com

Welcome to our site! EDAboard.com is an international Electronic Discussion Forum focused on EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals... and a whole lot more! To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.

Register Log in

lead acid charger schematic with maintenance charging

Status
Not open for further replies.

totue

Junior Member level 3
Joined
Sep 18, 2001
Messages
25
Helped
0
Reputation
0
Reaction score
0
Trophy points
1,281
Activity points
147
lead acid charger schematic

Hi,

i am looking for the schematic of a good lead acid chargeur with maintenance charging for a maximum battery of 65Ah.

thanks.

Totue.
 

flatulent

Advanced Member level 5
Joined
Jul 19, 2002
Messages
4,629
Helped
489
Reputation
980
Reaction score
150
Trophy points
1,343
Location
Middle Earth
Activity points
46,689
multiple battery lead acid charger schematics

The absolut simplest is to have 13.8 V applied to the battery at all times. If you want to get a bit more complex, use a current limiter so that when the 13.8 is applied to a discharged battery the current is limited to about 1/10 or 1/20 of the battery capacity. If you want to get even more complex, have the voltage 14.7 V while charging and when the current drops to 1% of the rated capacity drop to 13.8 V.
 

arturt134

Full Member level 2
Joined
Dec 31, 1999
Messages
125
Helped
8
Reputation
16
Reaction score
7
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Poland
Activity points
1,006
uc2906 simple design?

You can use UC2906 (linear) or UC2909 (switchmode) lead acid battery charger from Texas Instruments.
 

bimbla

Advanced Member level 1
Joined
Jul 13, 2001
Messages
419
Helped
23
Reputation
46
Reaction score
8
Trophy points
1,298
Activity points
3,608
l200 lead acid

We can design using simple digital ic's and a analogue muxer like 4067.
 

ebenni

Advanced Member level 4
Joined
Jan 30, 2002
Messages
105
Helped
3
Reputation
6
Reaction score
2
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Turkey
Activity points
545
trickle charger schematic

look at the EPE august 2001 in MCU fleman.
 

Al Farouk

Full Member level 4
Joined
Jan 13, 2003
Messages
191
Helped
16
Reputation
32
Reaction score
16
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Egypt
Activity points
1,854
uc2906 charger circuits

you can apply the idea supplied by flatulent
by building a variable voltage power supply arround LM317 and sens the current floww over a small power resistor, when the current drops use the output of the comparator that sense the current to switch the control terminal of the LM317 to drop the voltage to the current tackling mode.
 

barrybear

Full Member level 4
Joined
Nov 22, 2001
Messages
239
Helped
14
Reputation
28
Reaction score
4
Trophy points
1,298
Activity points
2,035
lead acid trickle charger schematic free

A lead acid battery needs to be charged with a constant VOLTAGE rather thasn a constant current. Having built many of these that moniter the voltage and cut in at various times I have come to the conclusion that the best method is to use a very heavy rectifier and a well chosen transformer the secondry giving a voltage of 14 voltes to maintain the stait of the battery. this way will allow you to startthe car with the charger connected and not damage your charger.

Barrybear
 

arturt134

Full Member level 2
Joined
Dec 31, 1999
Messages
125
Helped
8
Reputation
16
Reaction score
7
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Poland
Activity points
1,006
lead acid charger max voltage

The best algorithm is constant current, in the first stage, and constant voltage in the second stage (after achieved maximum voltage level). Also, all voltages are temperature-dependent, so charger have to track temperature. This is not important, when battery is charged in the room temperature (+20...+25 C deg), but in the industrial temperature range (-20...+70 C deg) this is very important.
 

barrybear

Full Member level 4
Joined
Nov 22, 2001
Messages
239
Helped
14
Reputation
28
Reaction score
4
Trophy points
1,298
Activity points
2,035
lead acic charger l200

I would not chose the constant current first part of the charge. There will be times when you will have to charge a battery from a terminal voltage of possibly 1or 2 voltes. A constant current at this point may not inicalise the battery for a full charge. I have found that lead acid batteries should banged charge to overcome any residual coating on the plates and then left to charge for the duration of the battery capacity.

Barrybear
 

arturt134

Full Member level 2
Joined
Dec 31, 1999
Messages
125
Helped
8
Reputation
16
Reaction score
7
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Poland
Activity points
1,006
site:www.edaboard.com searchtopic46207

Sure. When the battery is in deep discharge, you have to use other stage - in datasheet UC2906 (UC3906) this stage is called "trickle charge". The battery is charged low constant current. When voltage rises above minimum voltage, charger switches to normal charge.
Look at the datasheet UC2906 from Texas Instruments.
 

ASIC

Full Member level 3
Joined
May 18, 2001
Messages
164
Helped
2
Reputation
4
Reaction score
1
Trophy points
1,298
Activity points
1,205
lm317t lead acid trickle charger

What if the charging current comes from a set of solar panels and the current cannot be quaranteed?


ASIC
 

Fragrance

Advanced Member level 4
Joined
Jul 26, 2002
Messages
1,191
Helped
247
Reputation
494
Reaction score
198
Trophy points
1,343
Location
East Of Earth
Activity points
8,916
uc2906 car charger

[align=justify:ac5d900154]Properly charging of sealed lead acid batteries is very importent thing for long and trouble free battery service the upload file contain a very good quality lead acid batteries charger
With these feature’s capable of quickly and safely charging of lead acid batteries providing with temperature compensation in addition two step charging level with automatic switch over and floating voltage charging.

Hope help full for other user to. I am using this charger with out any trouble and problem [/align:ac5d900154]
 

Fragrance

Advanced Member level 4
Joined
Jul 26, 2002
Messages
1,191
Helped
247
Reputation
494
Reaction score
198
Trophy points
1,343
Location
East Of Earth
Activity points
8,916
uc2906 schematic

hi

re uploaded better version of the pdf file sory for trouble :cry: i forget to recompile it
 
  • Like
Reactions: jimjix

    jimjix

    points: 2
    Helpful Answer Positive Rating

dacadc

Full Member level 2
Joined
Apr 22, 2001
Messages
146
Helped
2
Reputation
4
Reaction score
2
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Ukraine
Activity points
1,101
gel lead acid charger schematics

You can use my reference design, AN2107 which is published at Cypress site. It capable to charge several battery types, including ACID.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jimjix

    jimjix

    points: 2
    Helpful Answer Positive Rating

Fragrance

Advanced Member level 4
Joined
Jul 26, 2002
Messages
1,191
Helped
247
Reputation
494
Reaction score
198
Trophy points
1,343
Location
East Of Earth
Activity points
8,916
lead acid charge profile

hi


here is an other design very best with alarm reverse polarity protection and much more with it
 

dacadc

Full Member level 2
Joined
Apr 22, 2001
Messages
146
Helped
2
Reputation
4
Reaction score
2
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Ukraine
Activity points
1,101
uc2906 example circuit

I think, the best way is to refine specifications and later select appropriate device. It standart charging profile is reqired only, use fixed-function chips. For more advanced designs the best way build around CPU and implement all functions in the firmware.
 

Fragrance

Advanced Member level 4
Joined
Jul 26, 2002
Messages
1,191
Helped
247
Reputation
494
Reaction score
198
Trophy points
1,343
Location
East Of Earth
Activity points
8,916
uc3906 charger printed circuit board

hi,

here is the pcb for my first uploaded file
 

henrik2000

Advanced Member level 4
Joined
Jul 6, 2001
Messages
106
Helped
1
Reputation
2
Reaction score
0
Trophy points
1,296
Activity points
1,123
constant current voltage limited charger lm350

This is a very interesting question, in my opinion.
If you talk solar, then you have a number of parameters to take under consideration.
- Solar panel voltage
- Battery voltage
- Type of battery (lead acid, gel, etc)
- Current requirement of the inverter if used with a UPS

The best I could come up with is a digital solution using the very good A to D from Linear technology (24 bit resolution 0.5 ppm offset, 0.55 uV noise 110 dB rejection @ 50 or 60 Hz) and a micro such as the Motorola HC12. The end result is pretty nice. The battery is even disconnected from the UPS if the load requirement is low enough to be provided directly by the solar panel!

Due to the fact that such equipment can be placed outside where temperature can easily raise to 48 Celsius degrees, it is quite a very challenging analog design! So I forgot about analog and used pure digital technique.

Results are economic, no drift in time or no adjustment with 10 turns pot here and there... All parameters are programmable and all the floating parameters are taking care of in the digital world. A 4 lines x 20 characters LCD display the status and a simple keypad is used to modify and store in the HC12 EEprom the various desired parameters.

In short, efficient, economic and maintenance free! Try to do the same in the analog world... (I mean discrete components) and you would end up with a very large monster!

ASIC said:
What if the charging current comes from a set of solar panels and the current cannot be quaranteed?


ASIC
 

Status
Not open for further replies.
Toggle Sidebar

Part and Inventory Search

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Top