hspice no convergence

tofu · May 6, 2008

no convergence in operating point

I'm running transient in hspice and unable to get the circuit to converge.

==================================================
**warning** Due to a floating point overflow problem,
the damped pseudo-tran method was used.
Also, gmindc was set to 1.0000E-11

**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 8.8818E-19

no convergence in damped pseudo-transient, trying gmath ramping method

**diagnostic** no convergence in gmath method gmath= 0.00

**diagnostic** begin gshunt ramping
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 5.8208E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 4.2333E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 3.0043E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 2.6234E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.8683E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.5827E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.4461E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3792E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3461E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3296E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3214E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3173E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3153E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3142E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3137E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3135E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3134E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3133E-19

**diagnostic** although this circuit has failed to converge
to gshunt= 0.00 , it did converge to a gshunt= 1.000E-03

**error** no convergence in operating point

***
*** hspice diagnostic ***
nonconvergent voltage failures= 0
nonconvergent element current failures= 0
==================================================

Here's my TRAN section :
==================================================
.TRAN 1.00000E-10 14.00000E-08 START= 0.0000
.TEMP 25.0000
.OP
.save
.OPTION WL post probe opts ACCT
+ PROBE=0
+ DELMAX = 1.00000E-09
==================================================

I tried RELTOL=.01 ALTINT=1 and other options but none of them seem to work.
What else is worth trying?

Any help is appreciated.

smilelangjun · May 7, 2008

no convergence in operating point hspice

deleet ACCT and DELMAX
add accurate=1 method=gear
maybe it can pass.

ashish_chauhan · May 7, 2008

gshunt ramping failed

try increasing ur run time to some microsecs.

vbhupendra · May 7, 2008

hspice fails no convergence

try with .gmindc=1e-9

tofu · May 7, 2008

no covergence in operating

thanks for the replies but none of the helps. ;\

jeffsky520 · May 8, 2008

**error** no convergence in operating point

check your circuit first to be sure correct connections.

byteptr · May 8, 2008

no convergence in operating point

Is your circuit working with a very short time pulses or expeted very high slew/rates ?

northeast1 · May 9, 2008

delmax in hspice

tofu said:
I'm running transient in hspice and unable to get the circuit to converge.

==================================================
**warning** Due to a floating point overflow problem,
the damped pseudo-tran method was used.
Also, gmindc was set to 1.0000E-11

**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 8.8818E-19

no convergence in damped pseudo-transient, trying gmath ramping method

**diagnostic** no convergence in gmath method gmath= 0.00

**diagnostic** begin gshunt ramping
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 5.8208E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 4.2333E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 3.0043E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 2.6234E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.8683E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.5827E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.4461E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3792E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3461E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3296E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3214E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3173E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3153E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3142E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3137E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3135E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3134E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3133E-19

**diagnostic** although this circuit has failed to converge
to gshunt= 0.00 , it did converge to a gshunt= 1.000E-03

**error** no convergence in operating point

***
*** hspice diagnostic ***
nonconvergent voltage failures= 0
nonconvergent element current failures= 0
==================================================

Here's my TRAN section :
==================================================
.TRAN 1.00000E-10 14.00000E-08 START= 0.0000
.TEMP 25.0000
.OP
.save
.OPTION WL post probe opts ACCT
+ PROBE=0
+ DELMAX = 1.00000E-09
==================================================

I tried RELTOL=.01 ALTINT=1 and other options but none of them seem to work.
What else is worth trying?

Any help is appreciated.

change the algrithem.

jayanth.neo · Jul 16, 2008

no convergence in operating point +hspice

try using the following .options

I didnt have time to pick out the options. But just use this in ur sim and let me know if u still have probs.

.OP ALL
.OPTION ACCT NODE OPTS LIST LIMTIM=50
+ GMIN=1.00E-12 RELTOL=0.01 ABSTOL=1.00E-12
+ VNTOL=1.00E-06 TRTOL=7.00E+00
+ ITL1=400 ITL2=100 ITL4=100 ITL6=100
+ LVLTIM=2.00E+00 TNOM=+2.50E+01 LIMPTS=99999
+ CHGTOL=1.00E-14
+ MAXORD= .20E+01
+ METHOD=GEAR
+ DELMAX= .00E+00
+ POST
+ CONVERGE=1

Added after 1 minutes:

take out ITL6 = 100, if it is not identified by ur simulator. It depends on the version of hspice u r using.

gud luck

Seyab · Sep 23, 2009

Re: no convergence in operating point

tofu said:
I'm running transient in hspice and unable to get the circuit to converge.

==================================================
**warning** Due to a floating point overflow problem,
the damped pseudo-tran method was used.
Also, gmindc was set to 1.0000E-11

**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 8.8818E-19

no convergence in damped pseudo-transient, trying gmath ramping method

**diagnostic** no convergence in gmath method gmath= 0.00

**diagnostic** begin gshunt ramping
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 5.8208E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 4.2333E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 3.0043E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 2.6234E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.8683E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.5827E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.4461E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3792E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3461E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3296E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3214E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3173E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3153E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3142E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3137E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3135E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3134E-19
**diagnostic** time step too small in pseudo tran. delta= 9.3133E-19

**diagnostic** although this circuit has failed to converge
to gshunt= 0.00 , it did converge to a gshunt= 1.000E-03

**error** no convergence in operating point

***
*** hspice diagnostic ***
nonconvergent voltage failures= 0
nonconvergent element current failures= 0
==================================================

Here's my TRAN section :
==================================================
.TRAN 1.00000E-10 14.00000E-08 START= 0.0000
.TEMP 25.0000
.OP
.save
.OPTION WL post probe opts ACCT
+ PROBE=0
+ DELMAX = 1.00000E-09
==================================================

I tried RELTOL=.01 ALTINT=1 and other options but none of them seem to work.
What else is worth trying?

Any help is appreciated.

hspice no convergence

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