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Hello,
We are trying to work out the peak-to-peak B (flux density) allowed in our 40KHz Full Bridge SMPS transformer. The maximum ambient for the transformer will be 45 degrees C.
We are using a Epcos TDK PM62/49 core, centre leg gapped to 0.2mm. We have it in N87 ferrite material.
PM62/49 Ferrite core datasheet:
https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1734383.pdf
Firstly, we need to know the maximum allowable operating temperature of the ferrite. This information does not appear anywhere in Epcos TDK literature. Do you know where we can find this?
Also, pages 4-8 and 4-9 of the following (slup126 document) state that we need to assign our maximum allowable temperature rise of the core, and then using the “core thermal resistance”, we need to assess the maximum power dissipatable by the transformer. Then, the slup126 document says we must assume that core losses will form 50% of this power level…
Transformer design document.
https://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup126/slup126.pdf
We must then find the volume of the core, and then calculate the Watts/meter cubed power dissipation due to core loss. We then have to find the data which tells if this power density is OK. –Except we cannot find that data anywhere in Epcos website.
When we have the allowable maximum power density , we must find the graph of power density vs delta_B. –This shows different curves that accord to different frequencies. However, these graphs do not exist for the Epcos PM62/49 core.
The only actual information that we can find on Epcos cores is the following ferrite databook…
Epcos TDK ferrites databook:
https://en.tdk.eu/blob/519704/download/2/ferrites-and-accessories-data-book-130501.pdf
On page 49, we can see a graph stating that at 40khz, the N87 ferrite material has a “PF value” of 12000. This is in units of kHz.mT.
Anyway 12000 hertz.tesla’s , at 40000 Hz , means a B value of 0.3 Tesla’s.
…But what does this B refer to? Does it refer to the Peak B allowable?, or the peak-to-peak B allowable? –and if it is pk-to-pk B, then is that with sinusoidal or square wave excitation?
Does anyone know of the data which we need to find our maximum allowable peak-to-peak B?
We are trying to work out the peak-to-peak B (flux density) allowed in our 40KHz Full Bridge SMPS transformer. The maximum ambient for the transformer will be 45 degrees C.
We are using a Epcos TDK PM62/49 core, centre leg gapped to 0.2mm. We have it in N87 ferrite material.
PM62/49 Ferrite core datasheet:
https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1734383.pdf
Firstly, we need to know the maximum allowable operating temperature of the ferrite. This information does not appear anywhere in Epcos TDK literature. Do you know where we can find this?
Also, pages 4-8 and 4-9 of the following (slup126 document) state that we need to assign our maximum allowable temperature rise of the core, and then using the “core thermal resistance”, we need to assess the maximum power dissipatable by the transformer. Then, the slup126 document says we must assume that core losses will form 50% of this power level…
Transformer design document.
https://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup126/slup126.pdf
We must then find the volume of the core, and then calculate the Watts/meter cubed power dissipation due to core loss. We then have to find the data which tells if this power density is OK. –Except we cannot find that data anywhere in Epcos website.
When we have the allowable maximum power density , we must find the graph of power density vs delta_B. –This shows different curves that accord to different frequencies. However, these graphs do not exist for the Epcos PM62/49 core.
The only actual information that we can find on Epcos cores is the following ferrite databook…
Epcos TDK ferrites databook:
https://en.tdk.eu/blob/519704/download/2/ferrites-and-accessories-data-book-130501.pdf
On page 49, we can see a graph stating that at 40khz, the N87 ferrite material has a “PF value” of 12000. This is in units of kHz.mT.
Anyway 12000 hertz.tesla’s , at 40000 Hz , means a B value of 0.3 Tesla’s.
…But what does this B refer to? Does it refer to the Peak B allowable?, or the peak-to-peak B allowable? –and if it is pk-to-pk B, then is that with sinusoidal or square wave excitation?
Does anyone know of the data which we need to find our maximum allowable peak-to-peak B?