Continue to Site

Welcome to EDAboard.com

Welcome to our site! EDAboard.com is an international Electronics Discussion Forum focused on EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals... and a whole lot more! To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.

Design a RF Mixer.......????

Status
Not open for further replies.

Rfboy

Member level 1
Member level 1
Joined
Apr 28, 2001
Messages
33
Helped
0
Reputation
0
Reaction score
0
Trophy points
1,286
Activity points
232
microstripline balanced mixer design

Hi guys, I need some good ideas to design a rf mixer in the 10 - 12 -14 GHz frequency range with an If signal at 70 MHz.
I try to simulate a ring mixer in microstrip line whit ads 1.5 and mwoffice but not with good result.
If there are any body that knows any microstrip line mixer structure please help me!!!

Thank you
 

nandopg

Full Member level 4
Full Member level 4
Joined
Apr 26, 2001
Messages
205
Helped
8
Reputation
16
Reaction score
3
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Over the Rainbow
Activity points
2,521
step-by-step design a mixer

Hi friend:
The mixer using a ring directional coupler is a nice choice for UP converters, although you don't have a good OL rejection. Keep in mind however that one key point for a successful mixer design is to choose a suitable diode. Consult the HP web site. They have some charts to help you to choose a correct diode for your application. Also they have some AN that can help you to choose the best structure for your application.
No metter structure is going to be used, I follow a general approach to develop mixers in the 8 to 14GHz band that I describe bellow step by step.
1- Simulate each part of the mixer as a stand alone structure, creating "primitives".
2- Connect step by step the "primitives" ajusting their interconnection in order to keep the specs in all ports.
3- Choose the diodes you are going to use to made up the mixer.
4- Connect the diodes in the structure and simulate the driving point impedance at, LO and RF ports. Having these datas plote the impdance paths on a Smith chart and derive a matching network. These structures should be kept as simple as possible, once the return loss in OL and RF ports are determinants for a good mixer spec.
5- So a non linear (Harmonic Balance) simulation is done regarding the hole structure. In this step, should be applyed one tone to the OL port and another to the RF port.
6- Still in 5, the optimizer should be adjusted so that the goals should address minimum insertion loss between the RF to IF ports. The best IL does correspond to the best OL rejection and the best RL for each port.
I hope the above can help you somehow.

NandoPG
 

Rfboy

Member level 1
Member level 1
Joined
Apr 28, 2001
Messages
33
Helped
0
Reputation
0
Reaction score
0
Trophy points
1,286
Activity points
232
diode mwoffice

Thak you nandopg......

I try to start with a new simulation..

Bye
 

odyseus

Advanced Member level 4
Full Member level 1
Joined
Dec 31, 1999
Messages
115
Helped
6
Reputation
12
Reaction score
4
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Cold & Wet Europe!
Activity points
1,216
how can i choose rf mixer

See message below:-

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: odyseus on 2001-06-19 23:43 ]</font>
 

Needbias

Advanced Member level 4
Full Member level 1
Joined
Mar 3, 2002
Messages
103
Helped
2
Reputation
4
Reaction score
2
Trophy points
1,298
Activity points
756
All you say above is about single balanced mixer design in X Band,but as all know double balanced mixer has much advantages then single balanced mixer in many aspects.what is the pratical consideration of these mixer?balun or other?
 

Kit-the-great

Full Member level 3
Full Member level 3
Joined
Mar 30, 2002
Messages
150
Helped
5
Reputation
10
Reaction score
3
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Russia
Activity points
1,318
You can try a FET-mixer (see MWO examples). Diodes in mixers not always useful.
 

Mazi3

Advanced Member level 4
Full Member level 1
Joined
May 29, 2002
Messages
101
Helped
5
Reputation
10
Reaction score
3
Trophy points
1,298
Location
Europe
Activity points
960
mixer

use harmonics mixer. it is cheap and easy to design.
You can find it in article in Microwave Journal, January 2000, pages 22-40, author dr. Matjaz Vidmar.

reference design use this design in 20GHz project.
 

L

lightsider

Guest
Newbie level 1
Just moved this thread to a more appropriate section!
Pls do continue your discussion.
:spoko:
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Part and Inventory Search

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Top