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as the above picture shows, a photodiode receives the IR photo current, and through R1, generating a signal voltage, then, through VGA-BPF-notch-amp-comp-integrator... among them, bpf is gm-c structure with center frequency f0=20khz, Q=9, notch filter is Twin-T structure, with center frequency f0=50khz, amp is an inverting amplifier (closed loop gain=40).
now, there is a 50khz noise in photodiode, the noise amplitude can be 100mv or so, and the smallest signal amplitude can be 100uv or smaller (frequency=20khz). so, in this case, the noise frequency is very close to signal frequency, and noise amplitude is three order larger than signal amplitude. VGA has a very high gain (70dB or so), and VGA output swing is 200mv, so the VGA output is a saturated square wave (very easy to saturate), and noise and signal mixed together, signal can be drowned by 50khz noise. if VGA output is saturated, how to reject noise and 'pick up' the signal correctly?
besides, when there is no noise, and signal is small (nA order), the bpf output is basically ok, but if the signal is large (1uA or larger), the bpf output will oscillate a long time after photo signal ends, and causing wrong result. why? in simulation, i also found that, the ac and transient response is related to my reference voltage (bpf, notch, amplifier, etc), very strange.
i have tried some methods, but have no idea yet. i need your suggestions here.
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sorry, for some consideration, i cannot post the schematic. among them, bpf is gm-c structure with center frequency f0=20khz, Q=9, notch filter is Twin-T structure, with center frequency f0=50khz, amp is an inverting amplifier (closed loop gain=40), i only take care of the output up to amplifier.
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sorry, for some consideration, i cannot post the schematic. among them, bpf is gm-c structure with center frequency f0=20khz, Q=9, notch filter is Twin-T structure, with center frequency f0=50khz, amp is an inverting amplifier (closed loop gain=40), i only take care of the output up to amplifier.
thanks.
Why can't you post a schematic? It's difficult to answer your question without it.
 

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i have post the schematic of amplifier, just as the picture shows. it is an inverting 50 times amplifying. when ac simulation, VI is the input, VR is reference voltage. if VR is an ideal vdc source (0.75v vdc), then ac response is ok. but if VR is generated by reference voltage circuit (as left shows), then the ac response is strange, just as the right upper shows, there are two pole-zero pairs in the response curve. i think it is induced by the reference voltage circuit, but the reference voltage circuit has a good ac loop response when simulation. i'm confused, what possible reasons here? thanks.amplifier.jpg
 

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