seridj_mse
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dear experts ,
After a hard #work
to reduce noise for certify our equipment directive CISPR 16-2-3 class B with LNE , i had basically tow problem :
1- harmonics 50 MHz oscillator for Ethernet 10/100M design in mother boar. that is not the point of this post.
2- noise in power supply of our mother board we use a SEPIC DC DC converter 24w large input 9-30v and fixe output 12v@2A. for conducted emissions it was good
but for radiation emissions it was very Noisy
so I started dig into the issue and what is the source of this noise, hot loop as small as possible
, ground MOSFET as close as possible to gnd output capacitor
, change référence of components with better intrinsic characteristics
change PCB placement and layers
.... keeping in the mind
the price of those changes
and the most important thing the right functioning of the board ![Man shrugging: dark skin tone :man_shrugging_tone5: 🤷🏿♂️](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-1f3ff-2642.png)
So now i can say i was very successful reduce noise
but when i measured temperature of components, the surprise
:
-Before modification at max load 2A :
- Coupled inductor : 49°
- Diode : 55°
-Mofet : 45°
After modification :
- Coupled inductor : 64°![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
- Diode : 68°![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
- Mosfet :77°![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
Note : i take those measurements with my old multimeter and K probe thermometer![Thermometer :thermometer: 🌡️](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f321.png)
So maybe i know why
i use a 50R for gate Mosfet so i think
i should find another method like use 4 layers
PCB.
TO YOUR KEYBOARD for any help![Cowboy hat face :cowboy: 🤠](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f920.png)
After a hard #work
![Face exhaling :face_exhaling: 😮💨](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f62e-1f4a8.png)
1- harmonics 50 MHz oscillator for Ethernet 10/100M design in mother boar. that is not the point of this post.
2- noise in power supply of our mother board we use a SEPIC DC DC converter 24w large input 9-30v and fixe output 12v@2A. for conducted emissions it was good
![Thumbs up :thumbsup: 👍](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png)
![Thumbs down :thumbsdown: 👎](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44e.png)
![Upside-down face :upside_down: 🙃](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f643.png)
![Upside-down face :upside_down: 🙃](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f643.png)
![Upside-down face :upside_down: 🙃](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f643.png)
![Upside-down face :upside_down: 🙃](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f643.png)
![Thinking face :thinking: 🤔](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png)
![Money-mouth face :money_mouth: 🤑](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f911.png)
![Man shrugging: dark skin tone :man_shrugging_tone5: 🤷🏿♂️](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-1f3ff-2642.png)
So now i can say i was very successful reduce noise
![Smiling face with sunglasses :sunglasses: 😎](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png)
![Face with symbols on mouth :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: 🤬](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f92c.png)
-Before modification at max load 2A :
- Coupled inductor : 49°
- Diode : 55°
-Mofet : 45°
After modification :
- Coupled inductor : 64°
![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
- Diode : 68°
![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
- Mosfet :77°
![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
![Fire :fire: 🔥](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f525.png)
Note : i take those measurements with my old multimeter and K probe thermometer
![Thermometer :thermometer: 🌡️](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f321.png)
So maybe i know why
![Face with monocle :face_with_monocle: 🧐](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f9d0.png)
![Speech balloon :speech_balloon: 💬](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f4ac.png)
![Upside-down face :upside_down: 🙃](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f643.png)
TO YOUR KEYBOARD for any help
![Cowboy hat face :cowboy: 🤠](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f920.png)
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