Continue to Site

Welcome to EDAboard.com

Welcome to our site! EDAboard.com is an international Electronics Discussion Forum focused on EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals... and a whole lot more! To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.

self-bias circuit design

mohamis288

Full Member level 3
Joined
Mar 1, 2022
Messages
165
Helped
0
Reputation
0
Reaction score
1
Trophy points
18
Activity points
1,233
Hello,
I have a question about the following self-bias circuit:

1714759678388.png

In the above circuit, m15-18 represents the start-up circuit.
How do these transistors help to start up the self-bias circuit?
what is their effect?
where does the current m15 and m16 go?
can you explain the general performance of above circuit?

I have simulated the above circuit in ADS, and I get to the following results
( I have simulated important node voltage for different amounts of rise time for dc supply):

results without startup circuit:
no startup.png no startup figures.png

results with startup circuit:

with startup.png with startup figure.png

It seems there is not a significant difference between these two circuits.
 
I guess your simulation has two problems.
1. Test without startup-circuit uses very fast (ns range) supply rise time. Thus the circuit starts fine by capacitive currents.
2. Start-up circuit has unsuitable transistor sizes. Current in start-up circuit should drop to zero but it doesn't, circuit is oscillating instead. Consider that X16 must be much weaker than X15.
 

LaTeX Commands Quick-Menu:

Part and Inventory Search

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top