Are there any C to RTL tools ?

[they]

C to RTL tools

Hi ,
Can somebody tell me some C to RTL tools exist in the market? Which is better?

Thanks.......

 

[geconom]

Re: C to RTL tools

Check Celoxica's DK1, DK2, DK3 and Mentor's CatapultC.

 

[they]

Re: C to RTL tools

Check Celoxica's DK1, DK2, DK3 and Mentor's CatapultC.

how's the performance of the tools mentioned above? I mean compare with hand coded RTL.
Ever heard of tools from Synfora and Y Explorations Inc.?

 

[geconom]

Re: C to RTL tools

they,

I have not heard the companies you mention. As for Celoxica and Mentor, they have some test cases for which you can search in their web pages. They claim their results are very good. However, I believe in all such cases an experienced designer is needed to check what they produce and when it is desired or not.

 

[they]

Re: C to RTL tools

they,

I have not heard the companies you mention. As for Celoxica and Mentor, they have some test cases for which you can search in their web pages. They claim their results are very good. However, I believe in all such cases an experienced designer is needed to check what they produce and when it is desired or not.

Hi thanks for your reply...
I think at the moment, these tools are still unable to replace manually coded RTL in terms of quality....... but heard that it can shorten a lot the time needed for design.......

 

[sarath51]

Re: C to RTL tools

I am under an impression that code generated through such Tools are inefficient in term of synthesis and timing

 

[they]

Re: C to RTL tools

I am under an impression that code generated through such Tools are inefficient in term of synthesis and timing

Hi, you mean the area synthesized for RTL generated with such tools will be much bigger than manually coded RTL? Have you tried with one or some of such tools?

 

[geconom]

Re: C to RTL tools

I depends on the circuit and on the design team. The main advantage of such tools is that their optimizations, applied to higher abstraction levels, have greated impact on the overall performance than smaller manual optimizations applied by any designer. However, the produced circuit may still need such minor but necessary optimizations. So, for a big design, a team of experienced designers may find such tools very helpfull. We can not assume that an inexperienced designer may use such tools to create automatically the best possible design, without knowing every detail of the design process.

 

[spauls]

Re: C to RTL tools

i am not sure wether that C code will be timing accurate.

 

[freeinthewind]

C to RTL tools

i think SystemC is better.

 

[eda_wiz]

C to RTL tools

Forte Cynthesiser is another tool in market... My collegues have used it .. they said results are not very bad..