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How to determine the values of capacitors in SC CMFB?

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How to choose the values of the capacitor in SC CMFB circuit?

Does the ratio of the two capacitors affect the time to get a stable value of Vcmfb?
 

I think that the capacitor size indeed affect the response time. In fact it affects the loop gain and phase (therefore reponse time).
So I think the cap shouldn't be too big.
Furthermore, they shouldn't be too small, otherwise the switch parasitics cannot be neglected. Especially the charge injection that would make the output voltage differ from the target value.
As for the ratio, it is said in the book by Johns and Martin that a 1:4 to 1:10 is a good value. I remember once using a 1:5.
 

while choosing the value of the capacitor for the sc cmgb ckt you need to take follosing care.

1) Capacitor is size is big enough so that the droop in output common mode is withing range.
2) Capacitor size should be below the value where it start loading the circuit and reduce the gain (sc resistance)

This is with assumption that your update frequency is constant (if not then you can also play around with it.)

-Amit
 

it is better to choose them approximately equal
 

For CMFB, we usually choose the capacitors Ccm such that the bandwidth of the CMFB is more than half of that of the amplifier.

analoger said:
How to choose the values of the capacitor in SC CMFB circuit?

Does the ratio of the two capacitors affect the time to get a stable value of Vcmfb?
 

When I choose the ratio of Ccm/Cs=10:1 ,then I have to wait multiple clock cycles for the circuit to start funtioning correctly.

So if the OTA is used in the ADC,the system have to work normally after several clock cycles. Is it right?
 

Capacitance can't be set so large, it will affect the work speed, this maybe the reason why the system work normally after several clock cycles.
Advise to set the ratio to 1:1 or 2:1, just try it!

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analoger said:
When I choose the ratio of Ccm/Cs=10:1 ,then I have to wait multiple clock cycles for the circuit to start funtioning correctly.

So if the OTA is used in the ADC,the system have to work normally after several clock cycles. Is it right?
 

too large will load much of the op
 

analoger said:
When I choose the ratio of Ccm/Cs=10:1 ,then I have to wait multiple clock cycles for the circuit to start funtioning correctly.

So if the OTA is used in the ADC,the system have to work normally after several clock cycles. Is it right?

I think philipwang said is right !
Because i had designed and simulated it.

And when you use SC-CMFB "the system have to work normally after several clock cycles"
is normal no matter what capacitor ratio would you used.
 

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