kthackst
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I've been trying to reconcile two circuit models of cavity resonators.
Background:
Its commonly known in order to measure a cavity resonator, one has to "load" the resonator with however you wish to excite it (probe, loop, etc.). Parameters such as the length of your probe or size of your loop will affect the measured Q and f0. But these are the loaded Q and resonant frequency, whereas many designers are concerned with the unloaded Q and resonant frequency (Q0 and f0).
My understanding is that when it comes to taking measurements to find unloaded resonator properties, a good authority is Q Factor Measurements Using MATLAB by Prof Darko Kajfez. This useful work takes smith chart measurements and finds unloaded resonator properties. It does so by assuming the following circuit model for the loaded cavity resonator:
Where the unloaded resonant frequency is given by L1 and C1 and the unloaded Q is just a function of R1 and L1 and f0. The complex impedance Z1 can detune the resonant frequency and lower the measured Q, resulting in loaded measurements. This is of course only valid at one mode near the resonant frequency.
However, another there is another circuit model detailed in "Equivalent circuit of a cavity coupled to a feeding line and its dependence on the electric or magnetic nature of output coupling structure" by P. Couffignal et. al. (I'm sure this isn't the only source to use this circuit model but I can't find it anywhere else). I find THIS circuit model to be very useful for designing the cavity probe later after I've determined (or at least confident I've determined) unloaded resonator properties.
In Couffignal's circuit model, there is electrical coupling (mutual capacitance Cm) between the probe (modeled as lumped capacitor Cp) and the unloaded cavity.
My question is, are BOTH of these circuit models valid for probe excited cavities? It feels fishy to me that I model a cavity one way for measurement and another way later down the design path, but things seem to be working out. Kajfez's model certainly seems to work for measurement purposes according to the larger microwave engineering community, yet Couffignal's seems more intuitive to me and closer to the actual physics of whats happening, a single probe coupling energy via electric fields to a resonator. Thoughts?
Background:
Its commonly known in order to measure a cavity resonator, one has to "load" the resonator with however you wish to excite it (probe, loop, etc.). Parameters such as the length of your probe or size of your loop will affect the measured Q and f0. But these are the loaded Q and resonant frequency, whereas many designers are concerned with the unloaded Q and resonant frequency (Q0 and f0).
My understanding is that when it comes to taking measurements to find unloaded resonator properties, a good authority is Q Factor Measurements Using MATLAB by Prof Darko Kajfez. This useful work takes smith chart measurements and finds unloaded resonator properties. It does so by assuming the following circuit model for the loaded cavity resonator:
Where the unloaded resonant frequency is given by L1 and C1 and the unloaded Q is just a function of R1 and L1 and f0. The complex impedance Z1 can detune the resonant frequency and lower the measured Q, resulting in loaded measurements. This is of course only valid at one mode near the resonant frequency.
However, another there is another circuit model detailed in "Equivalent circuit of a cavity coupled to a feeding line and its dependence on the electric or magnetic nature of output coupling structure" by P. Couffignal et. al. (I'm sure this isn't the only source to use this circuit model but I can't find it anywhere else). I find THIS circuit model to be very useful for designing the cavity probe later after I've determined (or at least confident I've determined) unloaded resonator properties.
In Couffignal's circuit model, there is electrical coupling (mutual capacitance Cm) between the probe (modeled as lumped capacitor Cp) and the unloaded cavity.
My question is, are BOTH of these circuit models valid for probe excited cavities? It feels fishy to me that I model a cavity one way for measurement and another way later down the design path, but things seem to be working out. Kajfez's model certainly seems to work for measurement purposes according to the larger microwave engineering community, yet Couffignal's seems more intuitive to me and closer to the actual physics of whats happening, a single probe coupling energy via electric fields to a resonator. Thoughts?