+ Post New Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

11th January 2008, 04:41 #1
 Join Date
 Apr 2005
 Posts
 18
 Helped
 0 / 0
 Points
 1,504
 Level
 8
capacitor in series
For example, I have 2 capacitors , these two cap are in series, capacitance will be
(C1+C2)/2, what about working voltage ? and break down voltage ? The working voltage for both capacitors are the same. let's say it is 10V.
Thank you

11th January 2008, 04:41

11th January 2008, 06:01 #2
 Join Date
 Dec 2007
 Posts
 51
 Helped
 4 / 4
 Points
 1,190
 Level
 7
capacitor in series
I think the voltage at the intersection of the 2 capacitors is floating

11th January 2008, 20:47 #3
 Join Date
 Nov 2005
 Location
 St. Petersburg, Florida
 Posts
 56
 Helped
 5 / 5
 Points
 2,012
 Level
 10
Re: capacitor in series
The resulting value (uF) of the network works as predicted.
Theoretically, you should get double the WV. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way in the real world.
It is a problem of balance. If there are any differences between the characteristics of the two caps (always) the center point will shift accordingly. This is an ageold problem with caps and is much more pronounced with aluminum electrolytic caps.
Even the best caps are pretty bad compared to the theory.
In Aluminum Electrolytics (AEs), the electrolyte deteriorates without applied voltage and is refreshed when forward voltage is applied. Tantalum caps also heal to some extent as well. If this is not exactly synchronized in two caps in series, one cap will see the full network voltage. If this network voltage is above the working voltage of one of the caps, it's cleanup time. (If you haven't cleaned up after an aluminum cap breakdown failure, you don't want to. I have also been burned by pieces of exploding Tantalum caps 5 feet way! Tantalums typically burn holes through the circuit board. )
When designing something for a one time use in the lab, you can get away with about 70% of full WV + WV, but if you want to reproduce the circuit (manufacture it!) don't even bother. Your quality review won't give you any more than one cap's WV. but, your line test failures will be much more entertaining (not to safety people of course.)
There are legitimate reasons to put caps in series. Obviously, getting a nonstandard value. Also there is a slight improvement in reliability if the networks applied voltage is below each cap's WV (sharing), but that is offset by the decrease due to simply having one more part to fail.
Ceramic caps exhibit a piezo effect increasing with applied voltage which means their value changes with applied DC voltage. Using two ceramics in series to halve the applied DC (V<<WV) to each will improve the stability of value (uF); but at the cost of board space, MTBF, and price of an additional part.

11th January 2008, 20:47

12th January 2008, 02:53 #4
 Join Date
 Apr 2002
 Location
 USA
 Posts
 3,942
 Helped
 660 / 660
 Points
 32,456
 Level
 44
capacitor in series
Two capacitors is series, the total capacitance is (C1*C2)/(C1+C2), not (C1+C2)/2.

12th January 2008, 18:33 #5
 Join Date
 Mar 2005
 Location
 USA
 Posts
 1,326
 Helped
 279 / 279
 Points
 11,626
 Level
 25
Re: capacitor in series
wesspower,
Echo47 is correct regarding the formula for capacitors in series. Regarding the working voltages, the voltage across the capacitors will be distributed according to the following formulas.
. Vc1 = V C2/(C1 + C2)
. Vc2 = V C1/(C1 + C2)
Where
. Vc1 is the voltage across C1
. Vc2 is the voltage across C2
. V is the voltage applied across the series combination
Regards,
Kral

12th January 2008, 20:11 #6
 Join Date
 Apr 2005
 Posts
 391
 Helped
 55 / 55
 Points
 4,682
 Level
 16
Re: capacitor in series
Series capacitos need parallel resistors across every one of them to correct the variable leackage currents across dielectric. For two 10V series capacitors the voltage will be 20V. However two 100k to 1M resistors are also necessary.
Series capacitors are used for HV filtering above 400V (where large capacitors values are expensive). Series electrolitic capacitors are never used for low voltage DC filtering. Rarely for AC filtering, connected in antiseries.

12th January 2008, 20:11

14th January 2008, 05:24 #7
 Join Date
 Apr 2005
 Posts
 18
 Helped
 0 / 0
 Points
 1,504
 Level
 8
Re: capacitor in series
Thank you, guys, I understand a bit more about capacitor, and correcting my fomular.
+ Post New Thread
Please login