# Why the voltage @ gate is +11V

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#### siddharthtaunk

##### Junior Member level 1
Hello,

Kindly help.

I have attached a circuit.

Please see that the gate voltage is -11V(approx).

Why is that so. I have an 100K resistor between the Gate and the point of resistor divider.

What i assume is NOTHING at the GATE pin (0V)

I have seen the same result in orcad and was perplexed.

Siddharth

#### DLakji

##### Newbie level 2
There is not 0V on the gate, as the gate has no reference to GND.
The only connection to gate is essentially -12V (assuming ideal FET). Hence the ~-12V on the gate

You need to add a reference to GND (e.g. through a resistor) or a dignal path to +12v to change the gate voltage.
In case you do actually need 0V (GND) on the gate, replace gate-source resistance with resistor to GND.

/DLakji.

#### erikl

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Re: Why the voltage @ gate is -11V

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#### erikl

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#### KlausST

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Hi,

you have two voltage sources.
One at the top, the other at the bottom of the picture.

The voltage at the bottom voltage source is set to "-12V". Set it to "+12V"

Klaus

#### siddharthtaunk

##### Junior Member level 1
Hi,

you have two voltage sources.
One at the top, the other at the bottom of the picture.

The voltage at the bottom voltage source is set to "-12V". Set it to "+12V"

Klaus

The negetive supply is for biasing the fet.

But can you please explain me the solution a bit more for a better understanding.

Thanks

Siddharth

#### D.A.(Tony)Stewart

It seems clear to me you have a depletion mode FET with and IDSS of 30mA at near zero bias voltage on Vgs. What's the problem?

#### KlausST

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Hi,

(If i need negative voltage i`d turn the battery sign upside down and set voltage to 12.0V...but the function is the same..)

Let´s go step by step.

it is a depletion mode FET and it is slightely conductive, so there is a I-DS of about 7.1mA

Now from the bottom:
* There is the GND symbol. This is the voltage reference. It is 0V fixed.
* Then there is a battery. The "+" sign at the top, but with the voltage setut to "-12V" you get a "-12V" reading at the top.
* then 100R. Gate current through R3 is 0.0A. Current through FET is about 7.1mA. Causing a voltage drop of 0.71V: -12V-(-0.71V) = -11.29V
* then R3 to gate. No current, no voltage drop: therfore the same -11.29V
* then R1: again 7.1mA giving a voltage drop of 0.71V: -11.29V - (-0.71V) = -10.58V
* FET: Voltage at Gate: -11.29V, Voltage at Source: -10.58V giving a V_GS of -0.71V

What else do you want to know?

Klaus

#### siddharthtaunk

##### Junior Member level 1
Thank you very very much Klaus.

and Thanks to EDABoard

#### siddharthtaunk

##### Junior Member level 1
I have one more question

When i ground the gate (0 volts) of the fet, heavy current flows through the device. More than 40ma
40ma. Otherwise it is mere 4ma

What is the solution????

Siddharth

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