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simple tube preamplifier (space charge) does not work

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I experiment with the ECC86 tube in low anode voltage.
I have successfully built the oscillator in the left and set the capacitor for minimum distortion (and lowest signal), but the RF preamplifier in the right (around 500KHz) does not work ok.
I have tried replacing the grit resistor with a 1meg trimmer and the anode resistor with a 22k trimmer, but no matter how I set these I see no amplification but attenuation most of the times.
Any ideas what to try?
 

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If I google "ECC86 Amplifier circuit" I see them all with cathode generated
bias.....? What is you DC grid voltage ?


Regards, Dana.
 

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If I google "ECC86 Amplifier circuit" I see them all with cathode generated
bias.....? What is you DC grid voltage ?


Regards, Dana.
Dana I re-measure it and it seems it does provide amplification. This was my fault initial reading I apologize. The AGC of the receiver gave me false readings.
 

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You SHOULD add bias to the second schematic or it will work as a rectifier. I would suggest adding a small resistor in the cathode (guess = 100 Ohms) and bypassing it with a ceramic capacitor. Without the small voltage drop across the cathode resistor the static grid to cathode voltage will be zero and any positive signal cycles will result in grid current flowing and hence rectification. I think I would aim for between 0.1V and 0.2V on the cathode.

Brian.
 

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You SHOULD add bias to the second schematic or it will work as a rectifier. I would suggest adding a small resistor in the cathode (guess = 100 Ohms) and bypassing it with a ceramic capacitor. Without the small voltage drop across the cathode resistor the static grid to cathode voltage will be zero and any positive signal cycles will result in grid current flowing and hence rectification. I think I would aim for between 0.1V and 0.2V on the cathode.

Brian.
Ok I did so, I added a 180R parallel to a 100nF and these connected to the ground and the cathode. It did not change many things in the operation, but since you say so I leave them there. the cathode voltage is 106mV
 

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