Sep 26, 2017 #1 P promach Advanced Member level 4 Joined Feb 22, 2016 Messages 1,199 Helped 2 Reputation 4 Reaction score 5 Trophy points 1,318 Activity points 11,636 For z-parameter model: a) How to derive the two equations in the screenshot below which are retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_parameters#Impedance_relations ? b) Why is output impedance, Zout computed with input node shorted to ground ? Last edited: Sep 26, 2017
For z-parameter model: a) How to derive the two equations in the screenshot below which are retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_parameters#Impedance_relations ? b) Why is output impedance, Zout computed with input node shorted to ground ?
Sep 26, 2017 #2 P promach Advanced Member level 4 Joined Feb 22, 2016 Messages 1,199 Helped 2 Reputation 4 Reaction score 5 Trophy points 1,318 Activity points 11,636 For Y-parameter model: a) As shown below , why "Though allowing simpler algebra, the Y model does not provide intuitive results." ?
For Y-parameter model: a) As shown below , why "Though allowing simpler algebra, the Y model does not provide intuitive results." ?
Sep 26, 2017 #3 BigBoss Advanced Member level 6 Joined Nov 17, 2001 Messages 5,965 Helped 1,609 Reputation 3,225 Reaction score 1,593 Trophy points 1,393 Location Türkiye Activity points 35,848 promach said: For z-parameter model: a) How to derive the two equations in the screenshot below which are retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_parameters#Impedance_relations ? View attachment 141462 b) Why is output impedance, Zout computed with input node shorted to ground ? Click to expand... They are coming from this representation. If you do the math, you'll get the same result.
promach said: For z-parameter model: a) How to derive the two equations in the screenshot below which are retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_parameters#Impedance_relations ? View attachment 141462 b) Why is output impedance, Zout computed with input node shorted to ground ? Click to expand... They are coming from this representation. If you do the math, you'll get the same result.
Sep 26, 2017 #4 P promach Advanced Member level 4 Joined Feb 22, 2016 Messages 1,199 Helped 2 Reputation 4 Reaction score 5 Trophy points 1,318 Activity points 11,636 For Y-parameter model: b) As in **broken link removed** , why " y21 =gm - yμ " ?
Sep 27, 2017 #5 BigBoss Advanced Member level 6 Joined Nov 17, 2001 Messages 5,965 Helped 1,609 Reputation 3,225 Reaction score 1,593 Trophy points 1,393 Location Türkiye Activity points 35,848 promach said: For Y-parameter model: b) As in **broken link removed** , why " y21 =gm - yμ " ? View attachment 141490 Click to expand... Can't you calculate so simple circuit equation ?? You should work hard..
promach said: For Y-parameter model: b) As in **broken link removed** , why " y21 =gm - yμ " ? View attachment 141490 Click to expand... Can't you calculate so simple circuit equation ?? You should work hard..
Sep 27, 2017 #6 P promach Advanced Member level 4 Joined Feb 22, 2016 Messages 1,199 Helped 2 Reputation 4 Reaction score 5 Trophy points 1,318 Activity points 11,636 why is y21 not depending on yπ (parallel with yμ) ?
Sep 28, 2017 #7 P promach Advanced Member level 4 Joined Feb 22, 2016 Messages 1,199 Helped 2 Reputation 4 Reaction score 5 Trophy points 1,318 Activity points 11,636 @BigBoss , I got it now. How can the second slide on https://ocw.nthu.edu.tw/ocw/upload/12/237/05handout.pdf#page=16 be reciprocal ? I am not sure how to proceed from these equations to prove that it is reciprocal. Anyone ?
@BigBoss , I got it now. How can the second slide on https://ocw.nthu.edu.tw/ocw/upload/12/237/05handout.pdf#page=16 be reciprocal ? I am not sure how to proceed from these equations to prove that it is reciprocal. Anyone ?