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I want to design a voltage-controlled ring oscillator

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hi all,

I want to design a voltage-controlled ring oscillator, a simple, low-speed, wide-tuning oscillator, anyone can offer any help?

thanks in advance!
 

check this , the transistors with the DC input are the transsitors used in control

this work , as u change the DC voltage uchange the current the upper inverter so the delay of the inverter change , so the frequency of oscillation will change as well

khouly
 
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Dear khouly
thank you very much
your circuit is good, and i will try it
i have already design a ring oscillator circuit, it work well in simulation
i'm glad to get your suggestion or advice

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Dear gingerjiang
i have check ur circuit , it is good , and the nice thing about it , that u change the delay of the inverter by changing the load capacitance by the varactors used

mine is by changeing the current ,
i donot know which one will give u wide tuning range , u have to check it by simulatin , also u have to check the phase noise performance of each

and then decide which one will be more suitble ,

also u have to check how to add a voltage to current converter , to the current controlled ring oscillator

khouly
 

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khouly said:
Dear gingerjiang
i have check ur circuit , it is good , and the nice thing about it , that u change the delay of the inverter by changing the load capacitance by the varactors used

mine is by changeing the current ,
i donot know which one will give u wide tuning range , u have to check it by simulatin , also u have to check the phase noise performance of each

and then decide which one will be more suitble ,

also u have to check how to add a voltage to current converter , to the current controlled ring oscillator

khouly
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dear khouly
i have simulated these two circuits, and now i use your circuit.
i find that your circuit's tuning range is larger, while mine's control voltage is disturbed by clock feedthrough, meanwhile isn't robust by process variation.
thank you very much
you said that i should check the phase noise performance, i'm beginner. would you like to introduce me how to simulate it?
 

it depends on which tool u will use
ADS which is based on HB "Harmonic Balance" or Cadence which use PSS "Periodic Steady State"

if ADS i can help you , if cadence check this appnote by cadence it is very good
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khouly
 

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i have some question, when you simulate the ring oscillator, what is its phase noise and the offset frequency??, what is the Phase noise typically in a ring oscillator???

thanks
 

about the phase noise and frequency offset , u should specify it , coz u measure it according to a standard ,
about the typical valuse i don't have an accurate number but generally it will be for sure worth than LC oscillator

khouly
 

khouly said:
about the phase noise and frequency offset , u should specify it , coz u measure it according to a standard ,
about the typical valuse i don't have an accurate number but generally it will be for sure worth than LC oscillator

khouly
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i just want to know worth to what extent , i know it may be much worth but for example at 3 MHz offset , phase noise typically ?

thanks
 

dear khouly
i use cadence, and i have download the document you provide, and i will try it
thanks again
 

ok , simulate it and we will see
and what about ur PLL , did u tried to minimize the jetter

khouly
 

khouly said:
ok , simulate it and we will see
and what about ur PLL , did u tried to minimize the jetter

khouly
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i use cadence to simulate the ring oscillator, but failed
i don't know the cause, maybe need the special rf model for MOS transistors?

so i want to use ADS, would you like help me?
 

sure
mainly to do oscillator analysis in ads use transient or HB analysis

which version of ads do u use ?
check the manual of ADS about HB smulation , u will find there a good example

khouly
 

khouly said:
sure
mainly to do oscillator analysis in ads use transient or HB analysis

which version of ads do u use ?
check the manual of ADS about HB smulation , u will find there a good example

khouly
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hi khouly
i use cadence to simulate the ring oscillator, and it is successful
thank you anyway
i found the noise of ring oscillator is large, how can i reduce it? which methods are there generally?
 

typically in Ring oscillator the phase noise is larger than LC oscillators

but i donot know how to minimize the phase noise of ring oscillator

may be one of the experts help us to do so

khouly
 

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