# Fully differential OTA simulation

1. ## Fully differential OTA simulation

I am using the spectre doing the Fully differential OTA simulation. In the AC, the GBP is more than 200MHz. What puzzled me is that in the transient simulation, there always offset votlage almost 100mV at the beginning, and need more than 20us, offset can be reduced to nearly 0V. How to solve that? In the DC simulation, the DC offset voltage is nearly 0V.

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2. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

Is there anyone can help me?

3. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

If u mean that u have a problem with ur transient response for only 20us then the circuit operates well, so i think that this small error is just at the starting of the circuit and has not important to try to eliminate it, THIS IF THE CIRCUIT IS OPERATING WELL AFTER THIS PERIOD

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4. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

do you have maybe some caps with "incorrect" initial conditions according to the initial conditions of your voltage(current) sources ...

you should be able to test it if you fiddle a little bit with your (signal) sources ...

anyway it could be as said before harmless if everything settles fina after 20us and you can afford the simulation overhead and get no further problems ...

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5. ## Fully differential OTA simulation

pay attention to you circuit Slew Rate. it is too small

6. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

Sunking,

you said CMFB slew rate or main OTA slew rate?

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7. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

the GBP of CMFB should be larger than ur differential GBP
that's equivalent to that common mode feedback should be established faster than the operation of ur differential amp.

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8. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

This is because at the beginning, the output DC level is 0, and it has to be charge to the correct operating point. So, I guess in your problem, there must be a rising or falling envelop overlapped by the small signal, is that right?

9. ## Re: Fully differential OTA simulation

tia_design,

You are right. How to solve it?

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