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How do you design a PID controller for MIMO systems

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Hello,
What is MIMO multi input multi out put application where it is used?
How do you design a PID controller for MIMO systems
 

can you design analog integrator??
if Vin is 200mv what will be the output?/
 

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I presume you answered the question yourself with the simulation circuit.

You can also calculate the output by referring to integral calculus rules in a math handbook.

u(t) = ∫sin ωt dt = ?

Consider that term "c" (initial value) in the equation is undetermined. Furthermore OP offset voltage causes the integrator output to slowly drift away. A real integrator needs additional means to reset the output. In case of a PID controller, the feedback loop will achieve this.
 
I presume you answered the question yourself with the simulation circuit.
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Sin= - Cos +C

but the value magnitude is less than input it should be more as per formula.

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A real integrator needs additional means to reset the output.
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What this mean?
 

how to understand it in simple why out put is not correlated to formula?
 

RITESH KAKKAR said:
how to understand it in simple why out put is not correlated to formula?
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What is not correlated to formula?

It works perfect.

Vout(t)=Initial voltage in capacitor + (0.2/Π)·[cos(100·Π·t)-1]

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The mathematical plot is the same as your output given by LTspice.

 
RITESH KAKKAR said:
How you get the formula?
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First: Set the polarities. Vcapacitor=-Vout

Second: write differential equation: Vcapacitor=1/RC * ∫Vin(t) dt
NOTE: In this case is an indefinite integral which means it will give me a constant value after integration

Third: Find that constant value resulted after integration by applying the Initial conditions (IC) i.e. Vcapacitor(t=0) = Initial voltage in capacitor.

Fourth: Vout=- Vcapacitor solved above
 
First: Set the polarities. Vcapacitor=-Vout
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How to do in simulation?

Third: Find that constant value resulted after integration by applying the Initial conditions (IC) i.e. Vcapacitor(t=0) = Initial voltage in capacitor.
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When i applying skip initial condition it get transient response.



Vin 200mV
freq 50hz

Vout = -200mV / 1k*10uF=-20 what this mean?
 

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Well you tell me because you have calculated that.. Voltage divided by seconds are volts/s.

I presume comes from the integral?
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ok, volts/sec

what then 20v/sec = 20msec
 

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