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what happens to the phase shift of a 2-stage opamp?

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Hello,

I have a 2-stage opamp, and I use nulling resistor + miller capacitor for frequency compensation. The opamp is connected as an unit gain buffer. When I do 'stb analysis' to find the phase margin, for some voltage the phase has a 'V' shape shift at high frequency. Why is it?

charge pump0000000000012.jpeg

Will this affect the stability?


shouldn't it be monotonically decreasing like this?
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Thank you in advance
 

The phase starts at 180 deg as it should then should be negative after going thru 0 with 3rd and 4th order effects , but appears to be inverted. check calcuation error.

It appears there is No compensation built in with dominant 1st order filter.
 

I changed 'stb' sweep type from 'automatic' to 'logarithmic', then the plot looks better. like this
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Maybe because of calculation error
 

This sort of behaviour shows up in Loop Gain analysis of different kinds.

On can even see similar plots from tools like MatLAB as well.

I think it is a result of how the tool handles multiple poles at the same point or complex poles.

Perhaps it is not able to solve for the phase accurately when given multiple poles/zeroes at the same point or close by. So it shows "kinks" in the phase curve.
 

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