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S-parameters simulation in ADS problem

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I am simulating a circuit that includes a symbol created in the layout (EM frequency plan 50MHz-350MHz) and lumped components.

In the circuit S-parameter setup: frequency range is
50 MHz to 300MHz. Type of simulation - Linear.

However instead of assigned setup the ADS is performing an adaptive simulation in the range of 0MHz to 10GHz. See below...

What can be wrong?

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ADS Job Status messages:

S-parameter simulation started
...initializing
...extracting layout
...expanding thick conductors
...analyzing ports
...reducing mesh
Adaptive frequency sweep started
Simulation frequency [1] = 0 Hz
...loading Green functions
...creating Basis sections
...allocating interaction matrix
...loading interaction matrix
...solving interaction matrix
...calculating S-parameters
Simulation frequency [2] = 10 GHz


etc.................................................

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It seems ADS remembers some old settings....

I solved the problem by using of a Sweep plan
 
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The EM model always uses the frequency settings from the EM model, and does not care about the schematic block frequency settings.
 
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The EM model always uses the frequency settings from the EM model, and does not care about the schematic block frequency settings.

Thank you Volker, I understand.
I found that Sweep-plan also helps: It is not necessary go to emModel.


Question: Can you please explain how can I make VIAs visible in Symbol (created from the Layout) and in Circuit?
 
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I found that Sweep-plan also helps: It is not necessary go to emModel.

I don't know how you tested that, but from my understanding of ADS software architecture this can NOT work. The Sweep plan is just a different way of defining the schematic frequencies, and has no effect on emModel settings. The emModel settings including frequency range are defined in emStateFile.xml

But based on your post, I did a quick test. Result: same behaviour with sweep plan. emModel does not "see" what frequency you have set at schematic level, and uses the emModel frequency settings.
 

I don't know how you tested that, but from my understanding of ADS software architecture this can NOT work. The Sweep plan is just a different way of defining the schematic frequencies, and has no effect on emModel settings. The emModel settings including frequency range are defined in emStateFile.xml

But based on your post, I did a quick test. Result: same behaviour with sweep plan. emModel does not "see" what frequency you have set at schematic level, and uses the emModel frequency settings.

Did you mark "Use Sweep Plan" option in your SP1 set up?
Look (photos) on my results for: 50MHz - 350MHz:
It works!
 

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It seems EMmodel was updated ...
 

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