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    How to extract S-parameters without EM field solvers?

    Hi Vfone, It was not a facetious question, as an analog designer I only considered RC or RLCk models (depending upon frequency) for almost all of my designs using static extractor tools (xRC, xACT, Quantus and Quantus FS). I always neglected propagation effect for distances below 1/20th to...
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    How to extract S-parameters without EM field solvers?

    Interesting, I had no ideas RF guys felt so strong about this ;-). How do you draw the limits then? I often thought that distance lower than 1/20th the wavelength were safe enough :grin:
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    How to extract S-parameters without EM field solvers?

    Hi vfone and Volker! It's a fair question. My company has never done design beyond 8GHz (16Gbps), and everytime the design was confined within the IC and the distances involved were negligible compared to our signal wavelength so that we didn't need EM FS. The routing outside the IC were done...
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    How to extract S-parameters without EM field solvers?

    I will look into that, however our circuit will definitively have more than 4-ports.
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    How to extract S-parameters without EM field solvers?

    Hello Everyone, I would like to extract S-parameters of a handful of traces routed on a Silicon Interposer (permittivity ~4). Traces length will be less than 8mm and the signal frequency is 28GHz. The goal is to simulate signal integrity among other things. I do not own an EM Field Solver or...

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