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    Some question on pll jitter

    Hi qieda, Thanks for your reply! I agree with you comment on cycle to cycle jitter(Jcc). But I read in paper that: period jitter(Jp) is the difference between instantaneous peiod with the idea period. accumulated jitter (Ja,also called long term jitter) is the difference between the...
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    peak to peak jitter and BER

    Hi everybody, I have read from paper that the relationship between RMS value of jitter and peak to peak jitter is depend on BER. Can anyone tell me what BER stand for here and why it has relationship with p-p jitter?
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    [SOLVED] Question on jitter and eye diagram

    Hi everyone, I the width of rising(or falling) edge in eye diagram is equal to the peak to peak value of jitter. But what type of jitter it represent for? long term jitter or period jitter?
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    Some question on pll jitter

    Hi everyone, I'm study jitter of PLL now, and I found there are cycle to cycle jitter, period jitter, accumulate jitter to discribe jitter in PLL. For PLL, can I say cycle -cycle jitter is smaller than period jitter, and period jitter is smaller than accumulate jitter?
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    Problem in getting jitter from phase noise of pll

    Hi all, I'm recently doing the jitter simulation of PLL, and I first got phase noise of PLL by adding every part of noise of PLL. Then calculate jitter by the following formula: phase jitter = sqrt(integral(fre,2*Lpll))/(2*pi*f); period jitter =...
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    Need help to design pll with desired phase margin

    Re: Need help for pll design Yes, I'm now using the s-domain model to compute the parameter of the pll, but when I used the designed parameter in z-domain model, the phase margin will be worsen for about 10 degree, and so I had to tune the parameter in hand, which is very troublesome. So I...
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    Need help to design pll with desired phase margin

    Re: Need help for pll design I said PLL is a discrete system is because PFD/CP works like the sample system, and in the paper "Charge-Pump Phase-Lock Loops" writen by Gardner, it said that "A continuous-time approximation is not valid if the loop bandwidth approaches the input frequency. In...
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    Need help to design pll with desired phase margin

    Re: Need help for pll design Because PLL is a discrete system, in the case the fref=6fu, the s-domain model will deviate from the real situation, and I think z-model will be more suitable.
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    Need help to design pll with desired phase margin

    pll design Hi, every one. I'm now designing a pll with reference clock frequency only 6 times to the bandwidth of the pll loop, and in this case the s-domain model is no longer suitable, and z-domain model must be used to model the pll loop. So in this case, I don't know how to design pll...
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    Question about AGC stability problem

    hi everybody, I have design an AGC based on 3 stage linear dB VGA and peak detector,LPF. and there is DC offset cancel block in the VGA circuit, which is made of a low pass path from the VGA output feedback to the VGA input, so that there will be a zero(about 500Hz) and a pole(about 10khz)...
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    Question about AGC stability.

    Hi every one: When designing an AGC circuit, what should be pay attention to make sure the designed AGC is in absolute stable state?
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    Question about AGC circuit

    Yes, if the LPF is a integrator(1/st), then the the comparator can be a purely subtractor(how to design this subtractor?). But if the LPF is not a integrator, such as 1/(1+st), then the comparator should have relative large gain. I have analysed the loop, and found it only has one left...
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    Question about AGC circuit

    My AGC is consist of VGA(exponent function), peak detector, comparator (to make the peak of output signal be equal to Vref), LPF. So which parameter will affect the stability of the AGC loop, It seems to be that only the dynamic of VGA, the time to detect the peak of the output signal, time...
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    Question about AGC circuit

    Thank you for your reply, I have read the first paper you uploaded, but this paper focus on the settling time of the AGC, and I also don't know how to make the AGC stable. From the first paper you uploaded it seem to be that the AGC will be stable if an exponent VGA is used , and the time...

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