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SphinX

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21 Feb 2004 17:51 What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,

What do you use?

Thanx
SphinX

FoxyRick

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21 Feb 2004 18:06

I like delphi, if only because it was *not* written by M$.

I've tried all three and find Delphi the most useable, even though I am a C/C++ (Borland) programmer for anything *not* needing a lot of windows GUI.

I've only developed a few bespoke packages in Delphi though, maybe about a year's total work. I've done a lot more in C/C++ on other systems.

Cheers,
FoxyRick.

toxadi

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21 Feb 2004 18:32 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

It depends on what you want to do. Requirements should define the tool to be used.
For simple small projects VB is ideal, but when it gets to bigger and more complex, Delphi is the one.
C is better though when no serious interface is needed and there is a lot of data proccessing to be done.

Regards,
toxadi

AlundrA

Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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21 Feb 2004 19:05

did you ever think using python. it's very useful and so easy to code. you can develop projects very fast because it's a very high level language and because it's open source there is so much developers and ready to use codes. you can use existing c++ libraries with it. and it's free!
w*w.python.org

yodathegreat

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21 Feb 2004 20:23 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,

Delphi is the better of the better of the better, sir...

Best regards

saltlake

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21 Feb 2004 22:01 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

and ... what do you think about C++ Builder?

I think it is great. But I've not yet created professional applications.

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ego

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21 Feb 2004 23:13 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I think Visual C++ is better than others,because of power of C language.You must start with VC++.Other languages is just trash!
Pascal isn't an engineering language.

sawaak

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21 Feb 2004 23:22 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,
sure C++ is the language of engineer. no doubt about it. Twisted Evil

as far as compiler is concerned, u can choose it according to your requirements.

thanks
sawaak

FoxyRick

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22 Feb 2004 0:09 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Oh, if you want an engineering language, use LISP. Jodrell Bank (the BIG radio telescope in the UK) runs on LISP, after all. Forget C - Rolling Eyes

But for a GUI language on Windows, LISP just sucks. Delphi is the best for general Windows GUI programming, write your real back-end technical stuff in C++, and control your radio telescopes with LISP.

Cheers,
FoxyRick.

jetal

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
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22 Feb 2004 0:19 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

As others have said, it depends on the application as well as other issues like code portability as well as the amount of time you would want to spend learning.

Borland's tools are easy to use and powerful. I certainly find them much easier than Microsoft's tools.

If your project requires hardware interfaces, C++ is the way to go - most if not all manufacturers will send example source code in C++. If it needs a lot of GUI work on windows, then Delphi is a good solution. When you choose Borland you can combine the two quite easily. Indeed the Gui part of Builder (the Visual Component Library or VCL) is actually written in Delphi.

If you want to port your application to Linux then Kylix can use most of the code you wrote in both Delphi and C++ (except the Win32 specific functions - obviously).

The learning curve is steeper and longer than VB for both C++ Builder and Delphi (and Kylix - the Linux version of the two combined).

But the rewards at the end will justify the time spent. C++ is an established and ANSI standardised, tried and tested professional language, available for just about any operating system you can name (Windows, Linux, UNIX, Mac etc) and you can be almost certain that there will be a C++ compiler for any future OS - you cannot go far wrong with it.

VB is a one maker(MS), one OS (Windows) language. If all you ever want to do is create a little application to run on Windows - then VB might be for you.

wfang

Joined: 26 Dec 2003
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23 Feb 2004 5:48 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I use delphi for quick prototype dev and small project. But for product vc++ is a better choice.

yodathegreat

Joined: 23 Feb 2002
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23 Feb 2004 5:56 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi All,

I use VC++ (in C) for devellopment of Drivers USB or PCI,
Because DDK is in "C", and I make a DLL in C,
And all rest of application in Delphi.

Delphi have Better Code. faster an smallest.
And very very quickly for make the Dev...

the C++ is not the language of engineer...
the C++ is the language for Database application or for beginner...

OK the "C" but you must write a good code..

Best regards YodaTheGreat

Antharax

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23 Feb 2004 8:52 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I think it all depends on the task and on the target platform.
eg.
* When you need a simple gui on a windows system and a frontend for a database you probably will use Visual Basic.
* When you need to write a normal application (with some complexity) you can choose whatever language you like and you know best (Visual C++, Delphi, Python, Java, ...) Every language has his good and bad things.
* When you write stuff close to the hardware you'll probably use C/C++
* When you write software that needs to be portable to other OSses you should probably use java (although the other langagues have a degree of portability too (depending on the amount of os specific things u use)
* When you write embedded software you will probably use C (with some assembler) and try to write as much ansi C as possible for portability issues (you don't wanna be too dependant from a uC vendor!!)

Antharax

eYe

Joined: 12 Aug 2001
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27 Feb 2004 12:52

I am using .NET now...
for .NET
VC#.NET VC.NET VC++.NET VJ#.NET or VB.NET look the same for me....
It depends on what do you want it for....

Delphi is a windows+PASCAL OOP.

sachin_chatekar

Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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27 Feb 2004 13:04

I think you should keep a sequence of languages like assembly, C, C++, VC++, Delphi, VB

More closeyou are to the hardware, more you go on to the assembly side of the sequence, and more you go close to the user, more you go on the VB side of the sequence.
After that you might have your portability issues(both H/W and OS), your knowledge of language and size of your language and the most important time you have got in your hands to complete the project

jhonny_yang

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27 Feb 2004 14:25 Depend

Depend all with your need and your experience ...

If you go with easy go with VB , if you want much powerful choose delphi , and if you want powerful and large support using Vc++.

Depend to your skill , if you a VB programmer just try using VB to solve all your problem not need to learn delphi to solve your problem in VB. Just take one and take all of your mind , algorithm and skill for your application

thx

joebazoka

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27 Feb 2004 16:14 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

In the paste I have used Visual Basic. This is good for simple applications. Now I`m using Borland Builder. This have a friendly enviroment like Visual Basic. I think that .NET is very powerfull and simple but generated code is heavy, in few words .NET application is only for new machines with many memory and hard disk. This is not suitable for old machines with poor recurses (Like all Microsoft applications). Regards.

maple

Joined: 27 Sep 2003
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29 Feb 2004 5:17 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Visual C++ is better than others

shariat

Joined: 24 Feb 2003
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29 Feb 2004 15:31

It doesn't depent of your application. Use delphi and win time. never use vb. but use vb.net and know delphi.net is released and is very good. i did all of i wanted until now with delphi , simple applications as wel as applications that uses hardware.

avra

Joined: 22 Oct 2001
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18 Mar 2004 3:41 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Delphi.

You will never have ActiveX delivered with source. VCLs in Delphi almost all come with source.

Avra

Analyzer

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18 Mar 2004 20:58 What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,

I suggest VC++ users to try Borland C++ Builder.Less buggy and very easy developing tool.I like programming with bcb!

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ben123

Joined: 27 Aug 2003
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18 Mar 2004 22:19 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

i'm using all of them time to time.

1. what do you know?
2. what do you want to do
3. how much time to learn language and programming enviroment
4. how much time to develop needed application
5. which platforms are you using
6. which platforms may you use in the feature
7. how much money you can spent (language tools, books, course, and of course time)
8. do you do all job yourself?
9. do you want to be professional programmer ?
and so on...

The best tool, language changes project to project.
every one has it's own advantages.

eg, if you now vb you can use vba easy. this means office macros, asp, vbs, autocad macros...

nowadays all going to web based apps. maybe in the feature our classical application types will die! or must change

franci

Joined: 16 Mar 2004
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19 Mar 2004 0:14 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,
In the personnel, I prefer the Borland compilers, as much for the Visual developments, like those of console, they are more easy to handle and they similar performace.
Delphi!

wisely77

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19 Mar 2004 2:27 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

hi,

i had try vb, vc and delphi. well i use three of them for different application.

vb is very portable script/programming language in m$ enviroment. i use it for m$ office macro, webpage.

for executable application, i use delphi, it simple and can be portable to linux Smile

using kylix. smaller size, eazy, fast and powerful.

for vc, basically only on dll development since this is the native language for system file.

wisely

kidiotb

Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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19 Mar 2004 17:02 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,

Visual C++ is the best cos its got the power of C++.Also the MFC is supposed to be one of the best though its difficult to learn.For a simpler applications VB is good for its ease in programming.I prefer VC++
I m not familiar with Delphi so no comments.

nosama

Joined: 21 Dec 2001
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19 Mar 2004 23:13 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi,

Visual C++ is the best

sddkk

Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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20 Mar 2004 3:16 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hi!
I think Visual C++ is best for interface with peripheral. Work with ports in
VC++ not too difficult. Visual C++(exactly C) is the basic, VB or Delphi reuse VC's resuoce(dll, com..)-I think

Analyzer

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20 Mar 2004 11:07 What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

By the way,

I would like to add something.When i want to make some "details", i can easily find suitable components to my borland c++ builder.And borland has a very serious newsgroup, i can ask/find every solution of problems.

Analyzer