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jhanus
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 21 Nov 2008 9:26 pk2v023200.hex |
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I made a compilation of data needed to create functioning PicKit2, which was tested with:
PIC16F84A
PIC16F628
PIC16F628A
PIC16F88
PIC16F876
PIC16F876A
PIC16F877A
PIC18F2550
PIC18F4550
You'll find attachmen, which contains 4 subfolders:
main: 1,2,3,4(.mht), where building and parts of scheme are described and pickit2.mht which is the same clone, but from another source. If both documents are read, failure should drop to zero.
firmware: In here it's PicKit2 firmware(PK2V023200.hex), it's practically irrelevant which version, because it will 'automatically' update when connected.
SCH_PCB: In here it's original scheme/PCB, and one modified by me for standard resistors and components, also another which have in title "LC_different"(skip this one, in my beautiful city you can't even buy standard components...)
Parts: BOM+some possible part changes in brackets, datasheets
Someone could ask, why bother when kits are widely available, but available where, definitely not here, so this post is for those who till now tortured them selfs with JDM, modified JDMs, P16PRO40 and excuse me on my expression, crap. It cost me 80% of time just to program anything! 
NOT ANYMORE! Pickit2 clone works flawlessly, yes there are no 24LC512 EEPROMs, but who needs them, and it can't program 3.3V parts.
You will have to program PIC18F2550 with PK2V023200.hex, I tried and tried with ART2003 programmer(LPT), don't bother, go to friend, colleague or college(uni).
I programmed mine with a beauty called PM3.
Needed files are:
PICkit2 User Guide.pdf
PICkit 2 software
which can be found on Microchip site:
link
Some pictures:
Well that's it, hope it will help and work, as it did for me.
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funnynypd
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21 Nov 2008 18:06 pikit2 clone |
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Cool, here is what we have done on enhanced features:
The new released BB0703+ family ("BB0703+128K" and "BB0703+256K") has the following Enhanced features to PICkit 2:
1. USB buck/boost circuits, guarantee internal +5V supply at all USB normal voltage inputs situation (4.1V to 5V normal), this will secure high quality programming voltage on PICKit2.
2. RJ12 Connector be compatible to ICD2/ICD3/RealICE.
3. dedicated external power supply circuit for Programmer-to-Go feature.
4. Native support 256K byte of Memory on "BB0703+256K", no hardware h(at)ck on PICkit2 is necessary.
For more info, please refer to:
http://www.auelectronics.com/System-PICkit2.htm
http://www.auelectronics.com/UserManual-BB0703.htm
 
You may consider including some of the cool features too.
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jhanus
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21 Nov 2008 18:26 pickit3 |
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Ohhh funny, you are so funny, I'm promoting free, let me say again FREE.
So that people who can't afford to buy it, can create alone Pickit 2 for far less money then what you or any other 'helper' can offer.
I'm going to have to ask you or anyone else not to promote your products here OR you can, but you must offer full schematics + PCB in Eagle, OrCAD or DeepTrace and not just useless low quality pictures of one side of board which is multi layered or useless documentation.
Maybe you ask why, well so we can all copy and reproduce your product for FREE, yeah FREE.
I hope that you understood, what I'm trying to do here, if not, I'll gladly explain again.
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funnynypd
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jhanus
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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21 Nov 2008 19:09 pic16f876a 24lc512 circuit |
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| I must be blind, but I can't find PCB design(expect useless low quality out proportions pictures of PCB) files in Eagle, OrCAD, DeepTrace, ExpressPCB, PCB123 or any other extension.
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sn_burki
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22 Dec 2008 19:39 +18f2550 program failure |
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Dear Jhanus
All the best you have done a wonderful job.. I really appritiate your efferts, we really need people like you on forum who promot new ideas for the sake of help others rather than money. This forum is pure for contributions and help not for any sort of adveritizement. Any ways best of luck.
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jhanus
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22 Dec 2008 20:19 pikit2 clone forum |
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| sn_burki wrote: |
Dear Jhanus
All the best you have done a wonderful job.. I really appritiate your efferts, we really need people like you on forum who promot new ideas for the sake of help others rather than money. This forum is pure for contributions and help not for any sort of adveritizement. Any ways best of luck. |
My sincere thanks, you are the first one to thank me after relatively long time.
I know that capitalism rules most of our hearts, but some of us believe in better future.
Thanks, and all the best!
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max0412
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22 Dec 2008 23:56 pic18f4550 pikit2 |
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| This forum is pure for contributions and help not for any sort of adveritizement. Any ways best of luck. |
I agree this board is starting to get to much self promotion,advertisements.
I don't begrudge anyone trying to make an honest living but it's getting ridiculous.
Maybe they should set up new category were members can post there web sites and products. That way those who are interested can look those who aren't don't.
Jhanus thanks for sharing your project. I just bought a PIKiT2, but I'm sure others will use it and appreciate your efforts as well.
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jhanus
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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23 Dec 2008 8:40 pickit3 clone |
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| mabauti wrote: |
| Thanks ALOT jhanus (b'.')b |
You're welcome.
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| sn_burki wrote: |
| This forum is pure for contributions and help not for any sort of adveritizement. Any ways best of luck. |
I agree this board is starting to get to much self promotion,advertisements.
I don't begrudge anyone trying to make an honest living but it's getting ridiculous.
Maybe they should set up new category were members can post there web sites and products. That way those who are interested can look those who aren't don't.
Jhanus thanks for sharing your project. I just bought a PIKiT2, but I'm sure others will use it and appreciate your efforts as well. |
That's right, it's totally moronic to replay, 'look at me I have PicKit2 for 1 dollar less then original' to question of type 'what transistor replacement to use', or e.g. this thread, I post free and working project and to replay with same project for money is simply ridicules and stupid.
Let them make their own category which no one will anyways look at and stop trolling normal threads.
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Google
AdSense
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23 Dec 2008 8:40 Ads |
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blueroomelectronics
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23 Dec 2008 17:19 jhanus pickit |
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The problem with a DIY PICKit2 is the 18F2550 needs to be preprogrammed (jhanus used a PM3 programmer not exactly in everyones parts drawer). Another gotcha is the use of an LVP programmer may put the 18F2550 in continuous bootloader mode since the PGM pin is the bootloader button on the PK2.
All the PICkit2's Mine, funnynypd & Microchip are under $50US and they all include professionally made PCBs and preprogrammed 18F2550. FYI the first Junebug (PK2) prototype was handwired and worked like a charm.
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funnynypd
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23 Dec 2008 18:25 hex pcb pov |
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And the beauty of the PICKit2 open source design allows the end-user modify for more features, e.g. our BB0703, BB0703+128K, BB0703+256K and the Junebug from blueroomElectronics, etc.
For DIY fans like the through-hole components you can take the advantage of Junebug.
For DIY fans like the SMD design, you can take a look of our CB0703 design:
http://www.auelectronics.com/Hardware-CB0703.htm
For people having board designed for ICD2, ICD3, RealICE, all BB0703 family can be used directly with them by a RJ12 Reverse cable.
For laptop user who has limited USB port and need a USB hub, or any user has a weak PC USB port (low USB voltage supply), you can choose the BB0703+128K and BB0703+256K, both of which have buck/boost circuit. And this buck/boost circuit secures +5V power supply to PICkit2 programming circuit in any normal USB standard allowed voltage range (4.1V to 5.xV). (Many PIC requires "Vdd >=4.6V" for good quality ICSP programming) The buck/boost circuit is designed working with Vusb inputs as low as 3.0V.
For PICkit 2 Programmer-to-Go fans, now the BB0703+256K has naturally 256K EEPROM on board, no hardware h(at)ck is necessary, it is fast and safe.
One concern on this photo:
The ICSP cable seems a bit too long, please make sure it is shorter than 6 inch if you need program some dsPIC33 family.
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jhanus
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23 Dec 2008 18:47 dl4yhf programmer |
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But sometimes, there is no helping.
Whatever...
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hugo
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23 Dec 2008 21:47 bom pickit 3 |
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Having electronics as a hobby is one thing and making money out of it is another one...
they just don't get it... or maybe they are really hungry...
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me_guitarist
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24 Dec 2008 2:49 pickit 2 pcb |
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| Nice work guys.
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visn
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24 Dec 2008 6:53 pickit2 |
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Blueroom & funnynypd :
To ship your products means adding another $15-25 which moves the total investment (for the hobbyist) up significantly. What we can afford to invest is - time. And after the mistakes there may be regrets of not going to you in the first place.
Maybe. But we are aware of you two, on many forums ( electro-tech , microchip, mp3car, etc). Perhaps you two should be moved to a sticky, because you hijack the homebrew discussions way to often.
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funnynypd
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24 Dec 2008 15:18 pick2 microchip |
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I don't think there is anyone failed yet on our CB0703 (PICkit 2) DIY kits. And we do provide helps and supports when people made mistakes.
Here is few issues reported from fans and fixes we provided:
1. Solder irons is too hot, and damaged one Transistor; Action from Au Group Electronics: three spare parts were send, Customer used one get the CB0703 working and kept the rest two for his other projects.
2. A Customer ordered one CB0703 board only and has plenty parts from his own inventory. During assembly, One Tan cap was placed in the wrong direction, lead to other circuit damage. Action from Au Group Electronics: tech support on identifying the damaged circuit, customer fixed the Tan Cap and damaged IC issue, everything working like a charm thereafter.
Most feedback on CB0703 DIY kits are "very easy to assemble"; For more customer comments on CB0703 kit, please visit:
http://www.auelectronics.com/CustomerComments.htm
Other than few of these case, the rest of the CB0703 customer are pretty happy for the ease of use and step by step guide on this DIY kits (check the link below).
http://www.auelectronics.com/pdfs/Assemble_PICkit2.pdf
A student even market CB0703 kit in local school and started his own business.
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funnynypd
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28 Dec 2008 19:46 p16pro40 step by step |
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| visn wrote: |
funnynypd :
To ship your products means adding another $15-25 which moves the total investment (for the hobbyist) up significantly. What we can afford to invest is - time. |
I checked again on my web site, it is always US$10 shipping and handling for a BB0703 or a Combo0703-PP.
http://www.auelectronics.com/Hardware-CB0703.htm
http://www.auelectronics.com/System-PICkit2.htm
I do realize US$15 means 50% more; and US$25 means 150% more, those are big difference for everyone.
If you see something different, feel free to let me know.
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visn
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29 Dec 2008 6:23 pcb123 is crap |
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There are exchange rates, and customs duties ($9 on a $27 futurlec order!) and being a student in a 3rd world country. Not to mention the small matter of a global credit crunch ... as well as the looming Pickit3.
It is more feasible to muck around with the DIY blueroom pk2 prototype on a matrix board, for some of us - until we are ready for the real thing - or a pro clone.
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jhanus
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29 Dec 2008 8:28 schematic of pikit2 diy |
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You shouldn't torture yourself, they won't stop.
It just looks like that he's making a conversation, but in fact it's a monologue, all they do is promote(try finding one post where they aren't).
Every goddam thread they infest with that crap, unbelievable, boycott funnynypd and blueroomelectronics!!!!, that'll teach them.
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funnynypd
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29 Dec 2008 16:56 pickit2 +avr |
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| yes there are no 24LC512 EEPROMs, but who needs them, and it can't program 3.3V parts. |
The two pcs of 24LC512 is used to store data for programmer-to-go feature. This feature makes it possible to program without a PC.
It won't be hard to program many 3.3V PICs (which is cheaper and faster in performance) if only using the original Vdd control design.
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jhanus
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31 Dec 2008 19:57 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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| funnynypd wrote: |
I don't think there is anyone failed yet on our CB0703 (PICkit 2) DIY kits. And we do provide helps and supports when people made mistakes.
Here is few issues reported from fans and fixes we provided:
1. Solder irons is too hot, and damaged one Transistor; Action from Au Group Electronics: three spare parts were send, Customer used one get the CB0703 working and kept the rest two for his other projects.
2. A Customer ordered one CB0703 board only and has plenty parts from his own inventory. During assembly, One Tan cap was placed in the wrong direction, lead to other circuit damage. Action from Au Group Electronics: tech support on identifying the damaged circuit, customer fixed the Tan Cap and damaged IC issue, everything working like a charm thereafter.
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This is what you are doing, you could say taking out of context.
hehehe
ahhh
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aviansun
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02 Jan 2009 8:32 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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Thanx A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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mvs sarma
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02 Jan 2009 17:18 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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| blueroomelectronics wrote: |
The problem with a DIY PICKit2 is the 18F2550 needs to be preprogrammed (jhanus used a PM3 programmer not exactly in everyones parts drawer). Another gotcha is the use of an LVP programmer may put the 18F2550 in continuous bootloader mode since the PGM pin is the bootloader button on the PK2.
All the PICkit2's Mine, funnynypd & Microchip are under $50US and they all include professionally made PCBs and preprogrammed 18F2550. FYI the first Junebug (PK2) prototype was handwired and worked like a charm.
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Your Lab-Easy pcb is tempting (Double sided -PTH- blue mask), too tempting. I only wish that some Indian guys make it for the hobbyists over here.
LVP prog is now confirmed non compatible for any upgrade by another person.
Finally the best appears JUNEBUG. Are you likely to have another programmer, this time PK3 clone-- and call it "COME SEPTEMBER"
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blueroomelectronics
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jhanus
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02 Jan 2009 18:30 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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| mvs sarma wrote: |
| blueroomelectronics wrote: |
The problem with a DIY PICKit2 is the 18F2550 needs to be preprogrammed (jhanus used a PM3 programmer not exactly in everyones parts drawer). Another gotcha is the use of an LVP programmer may put the 18F2550 in continuous bootloader mode since the PGM pin is the bootloader button on the PK2.
All the PICkit2's Mine, funnynypd & Microchip are under $50US and they all include professionally made PCBs and preprogrammed 18F2550. FYI the first Junebug (PK2) prototype was handwired and worked like a charm.
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Your Lab-Easy pcb is tempting (Double sided -PTH- blue mask), too tempting. I only wish that some Indian guys make it for the hobbyists over here.
LVP prog is now confirmed non compatible for any upgrade by another person.
Finally the best appears JUNEBUG. Are you likely to have another programmer, this time PK3 clone-- and call it "COME SEPTEMBER" |
18F2550 CAN be programmed with LVP, but I suggest NOT to program it by LVP.
Secondly, why would someone with sane mined buy something what he can get for free.
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| dipmicro made an improved version of the LAB-EASY PCB with SOIC pads. |
Please, do not continue to sell your products in my thread, because we are not interested in paying anything what we can get for free.
And it's not tempting at all.
If you want to sell make your own thread and stop hijacking threads from others.
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blueroomelectronics
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02 Jan 2009 19:17 All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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Hey I'm not dipmicro. I don't make a dime on their sales.
What is it they can get for free?
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jhanus
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03 Jan 2009 11:17 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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| blueroomelectronics wrote: |
Hey I'm not dipmicro. I don't make a dime on their sales.
What is it they can get for free? |
Chill out man, chill.
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gogo2520
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07 Jan 2009 19:25 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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Hello
I don't know why blueroom is so hyped on his pickit 2. It cost more then Microchips Pickit 2. Microchip also sends a USB cable with the programmer,
that save about 10 us dollars and its in a case. Plus you get a lot of free software.
I have a Pickit 2 programmer there nice, with the shipping cost the whole package only cost $44.00 US.
I could see trying to make one just for the experience so I find this thread interesting. Thanks for the info
gogo
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blueroomelectronics
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08 Jan 2009 3:15 All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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One post per year since 2005, I guess I get the 2009 post horray 
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jhanus
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08 Jan 2009 8:05 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2 |
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| gogo2520 wrote: |
Hello
I don't know why blueroom is so hyped on his pickit 2. It cost more then Microchips Pickit 2. Microchip also sends a USB cable with the programmer,
that save about 10 us dollars and its in a case. Plus you get a lot of free software.
I have a Pickit 2 programmer there nice, with the shipping cost the whole package only cost $44.00 US.
I could see trying to make one just for the experience so I find this thread interesting. Thanks for the info
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Totally agree and you are welcome.
| blueroomelectronics wrote: |
| One post per year since 2005, I guess I get the 2009 post horray |
Instead making fun of it, you should appreciate it and learn from it.
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