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m1tch37



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Post25 Jun 2007 8:05   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hey,

I am trying to build the potyo2 icd. I am having a hard time finding L1, a 170uH inductor. None of my local stores stock them, i could order online but i was wondering whether a 180uH or a 150uH one would work?

Ta,
Mitch
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potyo



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Post25 Jun 2007 9:07   

Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


So you haven't read the topic. Read it, and you will find the answer...
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m1tch37



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Post25 Jun 2007 9:12   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Read 45 pages or ask a harmless question..

Hmm.

Anyhow, dont worry..


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potyo



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Post25 Jun 2007 9:15   

Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Answer hundred times the same question...
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Microtronic



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Post25 Jun 2007 14:39   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hola amigos del foro..como ya es sabido el sistema operativo windows vista ya se esta volviendo popular y bueno es el que estoy utilizando en mi pc..quisiera saber si los drivers que trae el mplab son compatibles con windows vista y si se puede debugear bien y programar con el icd2clone con windows vista?
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MPi



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Post25 Jun 2007 22:47   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


m1tch37 wrote:
Hey,

I am trying to build the potyo2 icd. I am having a hard time finding L1, a 170uH inductor. None of my local stores stock them, i could order online but i was wondering whether a 180uH or a 150uH one would work?

Ta,
Mitch


http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic161641-1170.html
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alunaro



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Post02 Jul 2007 22:17   

Eagle schematic of ICD2 (PICs(B))


Hi

I wanted to build the PICs(B) icd2, but the components that i can find in my city, do not fit in the design.
Like i was not able to find some eagle/protel... file with PICs(B) shc to be modified, and pdfs are not too much user-friendly to be modified, i decided create the schematic.

The shc is derivated from original PICs(B) with minor modifications:

- Inductor L2 is smaller because is easier to find here. I used the package of a 5 mm resistor, because the pads of inductors fit with it. Real size is a rectangle of
10x5mm. Sorry but was tired to draw a new variant for the symbol Very Happy
- For the RJ12 connector... the same xD I found some post of ppl with same connector than i have and, it doesn't fit in PICs' original.
- Pcb has a ground plane
- I resize all tracks and pads to be more user-friendly, i mean, easier to be etched and drilled at home. The dark side is that size of pcb has increased a litle.

- Sch isn' too much nice, but... well til 1 week ago i wasn't got used to using it, and haven't too much time to spend on it.

Anyway you have the files to modify if needed.

Ah, I revised the electical connections twice... but... you know, humans can fail 1, 2.. and 1000 times. Report any error if find it please.


Thx to PICs and rest of ppl for your great work.

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MPi



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Post05 Jul 2007 19:20   

Modfied potyo's ICD2


Potyo2 rev1
Potyo did some modifications on his ICD2. Here is my redesigned board. (The previous variant visible here).

Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2
More people asked me what kind of program did I use for 3D pcb.
This is the Eagle3D by Matthias Weißer.

This is a working copy by Stadi from www.hobbielektronika.hu. Very Happy
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jankop



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Post05 Jul 2007 21:26   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


With old error.....
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MPi



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Post05 Jul 2007 22:03   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


jankop wrote:
With old error.....

What is the error?
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alunaro



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Post05 Jul 2007 23:26   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hi


An advise about drilling the pcb: if it's going to be made by hand, drills should be reduced to 0.2 mm (8 mil) of diameter to help center the drilling tool.

Use the "drill-aid.ulp" script of eagle to achieve it: in eagle command line "run drill-aid" and set the desired diameter (don't forget set the layer 116 when printing the pcb)

CU.
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jankop



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Post06 Jul 2007 8:35   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


jankop wrote:

But is problem with Vdd controll for ISP. Pin 1RA4 from 16F877 is open drain, but in design is't pullup resistor. Is minimal possibly complement pullup resistor to 1RA4, else switch Q1/Vdd is't goes to regular off state and ISP circuit is powered sometimes, when it has by off.

I have build potyo1, but potyo2 and potyo2- modifi have the same problem.
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potyo



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Post06 Jul 2007 11:53   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


jankop wrote:
jankop wrote:

But is problem with Vdd controll for ISP. Pin 1RA4 from 16F877 is open drain, but in design is't pullup resistor. Is minimal possibly complement pullup resistor to 1RA4, else switch Q1/Vdd is't goes to regular off state and ISP circuit is powered sometimes, when it has by off.

I have build potyo1, but potyo2 and potyo2- modifi have the same problem.
The modified board is equipped with this resistor. I think, it is not a too big problem to solder one resistor on the old boards...
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MPi



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Post06 Jul 2007 13:19   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


jankop wrote:
jankop wrote:

But is problem with Vdd controll for ISP. Pin 1RA4 from 16F877 is open drain, but in design is't pullup resistor. Is minimal possibly complement pullup resistor to 1RA4, else switch Q1/Vdd is't goes to regular off state and ISP circuit is powered sometimes, when it has by off.

I have build potyo1, but potyo2 and potyo2- modifi have the same problem.

Look at the pdf file better! The resistor is there.

Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2 Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2
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jankop



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Post06 Jul 2007 21:08   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Wow, it is great! I have only one modification now.


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MPi



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Post07 Jul 2007 7:22   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Sorry! I found mistakes in my schematic and board.
1. I connected IC5 power to Vpp, but it need to connect to Vdd.
2. The Vdd and the 1RA0 cross each other on the board.
Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2
I upload corrected files again.
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Ivanovitx



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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Post12 Jul 2007 20:49   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hello people,

I have a problem with ICD2's clones, I built two ICD2 (potyo), one ICD2 worked well during above 2 weeks. Then when day appears the problem MCLR Vpp ->High.
The other ICD2 that I built, fails because of MCLR Vpp is Low.
What can I do to solve it? May I have to change some components?

Lots of thanks!



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KST



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Post13 Jul 2007 10:21   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


To Potyo:
Do you have got the ICD2 by Protel, Could you give me ?
Anybody know ? Could you tell me ? Thank !
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Gonzakpo



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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Post15 Jul 2007 19:13   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


@MPi

Hey man, thank you for your work. I'm about to build the ICD2 and I've already bought all the IC's. I think I'm going to use your last version of the potyos but I have a problem. I can't open the files you uploaded. When I'm trying to open it eagle says: "Load Error 295" and also says somthing that the file was saved using an illegal copy of eagle. So, I'm asking you, is your copy of eagle original? If not (I don't care really, don't worry), could you try to re download the program and apply another fix or serial?

Well, thats all. Maybe It's my fault. Really don't know...

Cheers,
Gonza


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CMOS



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Post16 Jul 2007 3:23   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Gonzakpo wrote:
@MPi

Hey man, thank you for your work. I'm about to build the ICD2 and I've already bought all the IC's. I think I'm going to use your last version of the potyos but I have a problem. I can't open the files you uploaded. When I'm trying to open it eagle says: "Load Error 205" and also says somthing that the file was saved using an illegal copy of eagle. So, I'm asking you, is your copy of eagle original? If not (I don't care really, don't worry), could you try to re download the program and apply another fix or serial?

Well, thats all. Maybe It's my fault. Really don't know...

Cheers,
Gonza

Same is the case with "alunaro's" files. Cant open it with eagle. Getting same load error [Sad]
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Gonzakpo



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Post16 Jul 2007 4:41   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


I've found a program called "Eagle Legalizer" that (theorically) fixes those files. I tried it out with MPi files and It worked but there's no certainty that the output file is the same as the original. What I mean is that the program can change something in the board while trying to "fix" the file.

I've send a pm to MPi warning him about this and gaving him some advice in order to solve this minor problem.

Now we should wait until MPi shows up....
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Gonzakpo



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Post16 Jul 2007 20:58   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Well, MPi wrote me an email.

He sent me the files again but "fixed". Aparently he used the same program that I mentioned before (eagle legalizer) instead of using another version of Eagle. I hope the schematic and the board remain as the original.

Anyway, in a few weeks I'll build it so I'll let you know if it works or not. Probably it will work.

The files will be uploaded by MPi soon, so wait. I don't want to upload them because its his work, not mine. Something called "copyright" Razz

Regards,
Gonza
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MPi



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Post17 Jul 2007 18:50   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Yes. I uploaded the redesigned and many times repaired board. I hope for it, will be good for everybody.
... and I don't have copyright! Very Happy


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promate



Joined: 01 Jun 2004
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Post17 Jul 2007 19:08   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hi friends,
How can I dowload redesigned bord?
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Gonzakpo



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Post17 Jul 2007 20:03   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


promate wrote:
Hi friends,
How can I dowload redesigned bord?


You can find it a few posts above...

Thats the MPi's version of the board based on Potyo's last design. You can use another version if you want (PICS, inchworm, etc). Try to read the entire thread if you can, you'll learn a lot.

By the way, I've just downloaded the file again. Its working alright! Thanks for your patience MPi.

Regards,
Gonza
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terka



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Post18 Jul 2007 6:40   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hi

I made a ICD2 USB clone from this forum, from wiky http://www.icd2clone.com/wiki/Main_Page....

I have been based on PICS rev B.....the only difference is VPP circuit generation, I used a MAX232 to obtain VPP based on INCHWORM+ of http://www.blueroomelectronics.com/inchwormplus.htm (tested 13,02 max) instead MC34063A chip...

I used the firmware for 877A and 4550....windows installs the driver for Microchip ICD2 Firmware Client...but MPLAB 7.6 can not connect to ICD

It seem to be than windows xp can communicate with 4550, but with 877A don't.

- I had tested MCLR pin in 877A and its working
-
..Can someone help me in this..??

Thankzzz



i changed 877a for another....

Connecting to MPLAB ICD 2
ICDWarn0059: About to re-program ICD2 USB Boot firmware code. Please do NOT disconnect the ICD2 or interrupt this operation!
...Connected
ICDWarn0054: MPLAB IDE has lost communications with the MPLAB ICD 2. Would you like to attempt to reconnect?
Connecting to MPLAB ICD 2
ICDWarn0059: About to re-program ICD2 USB Boot firmware code. Please do NOT disconnect the ICD2 or interrupt this operation!
...Connected
ICD0286: Unable to communicate with ICD
ICD0082: Failed MPLAB ICD 2 operation
MPLAB ICD 2 Ready


help.....


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Gonzakpo



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Post18 Jul 2007 13:09   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Which version did you build ?
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lucky_se



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Post18 Jul 2007 13:32   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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JQL



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Post18 Jul 2007 14:29   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hi to all!

I find many times that PIC18F4550's contents have been rewritten, the ICD2.5 has become a "Unknown Device".
Do you know that what is the reason.

Thanks for your reply.

JQL 2007.07.18
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terka



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Post18 Jul 2007 16:17   

Re: Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2


Hi..

Gonzakpo, i made PICs rev B version of ICD2 USB Clone, with MAX232 chip to VPP voltage generation...

Finally i have changed 4550.hex from PICs rev B for one extracted with lindau's utilitie from 4550BOOT.BIN & 4550OS.bin files....I obtain a ICD2_4550.hex file.with this, i am connected to ICD2 (877A because that pics support that dunction)...


But there is a problem....MPLAB tries to download correct OS ICD2, but it can't possible...

Can someone tell us why MPLAB can't download The correct OS to ICD2?..

This problem seems no matter over operation of ICD2....

After that, self test is failed ==> target VDD = 0.0 volts.....i figure than VDD control circuit is putting problems...i will review it....

Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2

Project to replace CY7C64613 in the ICD2

Thank you very much.....

I hope show to you mi board next time, i don't have digital camera....

And, why PICs rev B 's firmware does'nt work?....


Bye....
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