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gggould
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26
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10 Apr 2004 4:43 wide tuning range VCO problem |
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Hi all,
I am designing a VCO with varactor and switching cap to cover 800MHz wide. But I find that the VCO gain and amplitude variations are big problems. Both Kvco and output amplitude increase with the operating frequency...
Any tips or advices?
Thank you very much...
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flatulent
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 4875 Helped: 324 Location: Middle Earth
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10 Apr 2004 5:26 Re: wide tuning range VCO problem |
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| Your best bet would be to add an AGC loop. Measure the output voltage after a buffer amplifier and use it to change the bias on the oscillator transistor. Another thing for it to control would be an attenuator.
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IICCEE
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 233 Helped: 2
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10 Apr 2004 5:36 wide tuning range VCO problem |
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you may use **several** the varactor ,some place near the BJT-E,some near BJT-B;
and you should be carefully design the buffer in the working band,also add an AGC loop.
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gggould
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26
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11 Apr 2004 5:10 Re: wide tuning range VCO problem |
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Thanks for all your feedback...
But I still don't know how to get a more constant Kvco. Right now the Kvco at high band (~4GHz) is almost 1.7 times the Kvco at low band (~3GHz).
Hi IICCEE, I don't quite understand what you mean. Could you explain the concept a little bit more? Right now I am placing a pair of back-to-back varactor between cross coupled BJT-C for fine tuning.
Besides, is there anything I should look into while deigning those buffer (emitter follower)? I only know I got to check parasitic caps.
Thanks again!!!
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IICCEE
Joined: 24 Dec 2001 Posts: 233 Helped: 2
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11 Apr 2004 8:24 wide tuning range VCO problem |
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i mean not only let varactor between cross coupled BJT-C for fine tuning,but also copuled from BJT-E.and using more than two varactor. (like mini-circuits product)
and also you can using ADS designer guide to do this,and make some modify for you application.
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VSWR
Joined: 07 Feb 2002 Posts: 767 Helped: 72
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11 Apr 2004 21:20 Re: wide tuning range VCO problem |
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Your VCO is tuned over about 23 % frequency range (800 MHz/3.5 GHz). A change of VCO sensitivity Kvco of 1.7 is not unusual in such a large frequency tuning range. And change of output power, as oscillator Q changes during tuning.
Which varacor diode are you using?
How large change of tuning voltage is required for 800 MHz tuning?
What is the change in output power?
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gggould
Joined: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26
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11 Apr 2004 22:57 Re: wide tuning range VCO problem |
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Thank you, IICCEE. Now I got it.
I am using NMOS in N_well varactor with 0.3~2.5V Vtune.
"VCO" (not buffer) output changes from .4Vpp to .7Vpp .
Gee, the Kvco change is really a big headache to me.
How can I design the loop filter to compensate the Kvco variation.
Besides, the +- 20% varactor process variation (which will cause about 300MHz shift) also piss me off...
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flatulent
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 4875 Helped: 324 Location: Middle Earth
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11 Apr 2004 23:37 Re: wide tuning range VCO problem |
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| As far as the tuning sensitivity goes you have two choices. One is to make the loop parameters wide enough to be stable with all values. The other is to make a compensation circuit which lowers or raises the loop gain at the low or high end. This can be done with a voltage divider with series diodes and resistors in the shunt path. It can also be done with the diode-resistor networks in the feedback of an op amp.
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lijulia
Joined: 05 Jan 2003 Posts: 78
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13 May 2004 7:20 wide tuning range VCO problem |
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| how about use coarse tuning to compensate the process Temp variation?
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