Continue to Site

Welcome to EDAboard.com

Welcome to our site! EDAboard.com is an international Electronics Discussion Forum focused on EDA software, circuits, schematics, books, theory, papers, asic, pld, 8051, DSP, Network, RF, Analog Design, PCB, Service Manuals... and a whole lot more! To participate you need to register. Registration is free. Click here to register now.

How to find the Q factor from antenna and how to calculate bandwidth from CST?

Status
Not open for further replies.

bkd

Full Member level 2
Joined
Dec 18, 2005
Messages
120
Helped
3
Reputation
6
Reaction score
2
Trophy points
1,298
Activity points
2,105
hi. I want to design antenna as resonator . But how to find the Q factor from antenna. ( using CST or HFSS). Q is equal to fcenter/bandwith. How to calculate bandwith from CST ( can I use the S parameter , and calculate the bandwith from -10dB -or VSWR 2:1)
Thank you for your help
 

Re: Q factor of antena

bkd said:
hi. I want to design antenna as resonator . But how to find the Q factor from antenna. ( using CST or HFSS). Q is equal to fcenter/bandwith. How to calculate bandwith from CST ( can I use the S parameter , and calculate the bandwith from -10dB -or VSWR 2:1)
Thank you for your help

From S11 measure - you matching Fc to best possible return loss via adjusting coupling grade or adjusting impedance from measure tools (port) to your antenna or resonator (easy to adjusting impedance on port in simulator and S-parameter block) - in smithchart must Fc passing to 50 Ohm centrum point. After this, you find bandwith as 7 dB point on your return loss curve and use above Q=fc/bw

calculated Q value is a unloaded Q-value of antenna/resonans circurit.

---

I find this describe on paper to how measure Q-value in coaxial resonators (I think measure antenna is a simular problem) and after some testing in simulator find out this working and measure Q-value correctly on my test lossy resonators. Is clever thinking from people there....

measure as S21 and S12 give loaded Q-value measure depend of measure impedance on port (mostly 50 Ohm) also act as load, but measure S11 with matching for best possible return loss in Fc, and DUT:s other ports is shorted/gounded/left open - you measure unloaded Q!.


---

But remember, measured impedance and calculated Q-value on antenna port can have low coupling to emitted radiation and radiated bandwith on antenna, all depend of internal loss in antenna structure and place of this loss in resonant structures.

- RF-terminator have fine return loss value and very wide bandwith - but radiate very small amount of electromagnetic wave... - ie. you cannot see antenna radiating effectivity and quality only via measuere S11 from antenna port...
 

Re: Q factor of antena

Thank you for your answer
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top