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Why the bjt is shorted (q3,q4 is dead) ?

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Why the bjt is shorted.

When I connect the power, the q4 and q3 in the red frame is dead, i don't know why?
 

Re: Why the bjt is shorted.

You probably missconnected q4. Check for emitter and collector if they are not interchanged.
 

Re: Why the bjt is shorted.

any of the pin base ,collector or emmiter interchanged
 

Re: Why the bjt is shorted.

How do you justify that Q3 and Q4 are short-ciruited? Where in Q3 and Q4 did you measure?
Q3 emitter is shorted to Q4 base for sure. If you measure these two nodes, they have to be the same signal.
 

Why the bjt is shorted.

It looks like the dc level of the base of Q3 at +15V. You have to check the Vbe across Q3. If it is to large the Q3 and Q4 will break down.

The DC level of the base is Q3 should be middle between +/- VEE
 

Why the bjt is shorted.

i think that kwkam is right , the upper side of r17 has to be connected to ground instead of +15 V.
Q1 - Q4 make together current booster and i dont see incorrect polarity of BJTs but what i see is poorly designed scheme or there is something hidden) :
- Why to boost current if Q1 Q4 limited by 10 kOm resistors ?
- Why the positive feedback is used (via U3A)

If nothing wrong with real polarity of transistos on the bread board , i think, when output of U3B
goes deeply negative so C18 is charged up to 30 V
then if due to positivie feedback U3B changes polarity to + 15 V , then B-C junstion will be under 30 + 30 - 0.6 V which lead to failure of BC junstion on Q4 and then Q3's emitter shorted to -15 and biased by 10 kOm could fail due to max Ic for Q3 .
 

Re: Why the bjt is shorted.

I agree with borber
Borber said:
You probably missconnected q4. Check for emitter and collector if they are not interchanged.

and all things which artem said
artem said:
i think that kwkam is right , the upper side of r17 has to be connected to ground instead of +15 V.
Q1 - Q4 make together current booster and i dont see incorrect polarity of BJTs but what i see is poorly designed scheme or there is something hidden) :
- Why to boost current if Q1 Q4 limited by 10 kOm resistors ?
- Why the positive feedback is used (via U3A)

If nothing wrong with real polarity of transistos on the bread board , i think, when output of U3B
goes deeply negative so C18 is charged up to 30 V
then if due to positivie feedback U3B changes polarity to + 15 V , then B-C junstion will be under 30 + 30 - 0.6 V which lead to failure of BC junstion on Q4 and then Q3's emitter shorted to -15 and biased by 10 kOm could fail due to max Ic for Q3 .

Regards.
 

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