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how can I take s21 result with cst

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how can I take s21 result with cst? I have basic micriostrip shape and I need to measure permitivity and permability of the shape so I need S11 and S21 (I think). For s21, do I need two port? How can I get s21 ?
 

Do you need two ports ? looking at the definition of S21 should answer this for you.
 

searched "the definition of S21" in this site but I couldnt any thing . do you have any cst sample which has two ports t0 calculate s21. Because I dont know where I should use second port in a model in cst
 

S21 is the ratio of voltage at port1 and port2 so yes you need two ports. I can tell you right now doing this right: " I have basic micro strip shape and I need to measure permitivity and permeability of the shape.." this is a tall order if this is just something for a class project that's one thing, but if your doing this for real you are going on a year long adventure. You will be up to your ears in surface roughness, causality, passivity, dielectric and PCB construction, solder mask, etch angle,etc. Why are you doing this ? it's likely over kill for your project. bellow 20ghz just ask your PCB vender to make a 50Ohm micro strip and you should get 50+/-10 Ohms ( +/-5 if you pay extra).
 
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In CST you display your S21 in polar coordinates, then go file, export, plot data and choose format: touchstone or ASCII.
? I probably misunderstood the question
 

i suggest you also contact the CST technical support through their website, for better help.
 

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