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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Eshal View Post
    Now, first three are fine and same outputs as shown in the Truth table. But when I want to get count on the output then LEDs are all low for last four states.
    see here what I did on the multisim
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    To get a count at the led's:

    Pins 2,3,6,7,10 must go to ground.

    Pulses go to pin 14.

    Connect pin 1 & 12 (bit A out).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eshal View Post
    Now, first three are fine and same outputs as shown in the Truth table. But when I want to get count on the output then LEDs are all low for last four states.
    see here what I did on the multisim
    Attachment 89485
    To get a count at the led's:

    Pins 2,3,6,7,10 must go to ground.

    Pulses go to pin 14.

    Connect pin 1 & 12 (bit A out).



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    What exactly your project is about. Is to simulate in Multisim or make hardware or explain the theory behind? You have schematics already given.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

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    Yes sir, I did it. I am trying other possible connections too.

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    It is to hard wire on the breadboard. But my lab teachers don't allow anyone to bring that hard wired circuit at home. So I thought, I should try it on any software first.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Here is counter for up to 999 Hz.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Congratulation to all the experts who are helping me. I have successfully constructed one part of the frequency counter in the lab today. Thank you all. Now in the next week (Monday) I will constructed second part and try to construct third part too.
    I had headache today so much that's why I am replying this time.

    @ALTERLINKS.
    helped me so so much. But still confusion. How did you come with the idea to choose clock frequency 500mHz? :(



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    The unit of frequency is the hertz (Hz), named after the German physicist Heinrich Hertz: 1 Hz means that an event repeats once per second. A previous name for this unit was cycles per second.
    For cyclical processes, such as rotation, oscillations, or waves, frequency is defined as a number of cycles per unit time.
    As it is a frequency counter, it will count occurrences in unit time (1 second).
    The period, usually denoted by T, is the length of time taken by one cycle, and is the reciprocal of the frequency f:
    The unit for period is the second.
    0.5 Hz is one second on and one second off ( 50% duty cycle).
    Here period is 2 seconds but we are only interested in 1 second during which pulse is low. Its because 7490 comes out of reset state and starts counting during the time pulse is low. As it has counted for one second and now pulse is changes to high_state, it serves two purposes. 7490 is reset but just before that the count data on its output is latched into 74173 because its clk input is rising pulse triggered. Now no need for further timing. We can change duty cycle to reduce on_time. Frequency will also change because off_time is fixed for one second. Cycle repeats itself.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Hello.

    I understand why we chose 500mHz just little. I will try some more experiments by changing this frequency may be i get idea about this.

    One more thing, you have grounded R91 and clock at R01. Why this is so?

    Thank you sir



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Hello teachers!

    I want to know. Please pay attention to me too.

    Thank you.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    About R01 and R02. I was sleepy, i guess that i connected that way. I was following your circuit so it must be like that. These pins are similar otherwise, so simulation was correct.
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    In simulation, From 1KHz It starts from 0 again because it only shows three least significant digits. There is no overflow indicator.
    Practically timebase hardware is required in addition to input pulse conditioning to make a functional gadget. Power supply also requires filter capacitors on ICs power pins.
    Either R91 or R92 should be grounded otherwise only 9 will be on output. Simulator treats open pins as high. Practically grounding them may not be required as in your circuit.


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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Eshal View Post
    Hello.

    I understand why we chose 500mHz just little. I will try some more experiments by changing this frequency may be i get idea about this.

    One more thing, you have grounded R91 and clock at R01. Why this is so?

    Thank you sir
    I wonder if you are referring to my post advising to ground pins 2, 3, 6, 7 of the 7490? I may have been mistaken, since that applies to a single digit. Contrariwise, you have multiple digits.

    Ignore me, and instead consider the diagram at the link below.

    http://www.devredeposu.com/wp-conten...29-210x210.png



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    If you see internal diagram of the IC,

    you will find there are 2 input nand gates for R01,R02 and R91,R92 which control JK flip-flop.

    It is better to connect inputs to some logic level and not let them floating like in the original schematic.
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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    I understood it. Thank you very much. So easy wordings. Thank you all here. Thank you very much.
    All teachers are very great and I am greatful that they helped me.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Dear Experts
    I have also complete the same circuit. 4 digit frequency counter. which counts from 0 to 9999 Hz. now i want to count in MHz but with same circuit and the main point is this that only these 4 digit will used and count in MHz. i mean is this possible that this 4 digit frequency counter can count in Mhz. what is the circuit configuration?????



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Quote Originally Posted by engmunir View Post
    Dear Experts
    I have also complete the same circuit. 4 digit frequency counter. which counts from 0 to 9999 Hz. now i want to count in MHz but with same circuit and the main point is this that only these 4 digit will used and count in MHz. i mean is this possible that this 4 digit frequency counter can count in Mhz. what is the circuit configuration?????
    You want to divide the incoming signal by 1000. The easy way is by running your signal through divide-by-10 counter IC's.

    The 7490 series is typical. Here's a link to a thread:

    Operation of the MM74C90 (4-bit decade counter)

    There will be a list of related threads at the bottom of that page.


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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    can u send me the modified schematic. my teacher is saying that do not add new component just change the circuit configuration and your circuit will work for Mhz. but how i dont understand please send me the complete schematic. thank you so much for your reply.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    I also want to learn this technique too. :)



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    As I explained in post #26, we were enabling count for 1sec so we got readout in Hz. It will be obvious that if we change clock to 5Hz, frequency will be divided by 10. If it is changed to 50Hz, a division of 1/100 will occur. At 500Hz clock, display will be in KHz.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Yes, make the time window shorter...
    That is easier than installing pre-scalers.



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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    What I understand,
    We were counting in Hz so we use 500mHz.
    If I want to count in KHz then I need to change clock frequency to 500Hz.
    If I want to count in MHz then I need to change clock frequency to 500KHz.
    If I want to count in GHz then I need to change clock frequency to 500MHz.
    Right sir?


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    Re: 3-digit Frequency Counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Eshal View Post
    What I understand,
    We were counting in Hz so we use 500mHz.
    If I want to count in KHz then I need to change clock frequency to 500Hz.
    If I want to count in MHz then I need to change clock frequency to 500KHz.
    If I want to count in GHz then I need to change clock frequency to 500MHz.
    Right sir?
    Yes, theoretically.

    It all hinges on the ability of your counting circuit to count that fast. There will be some point where it will need a pre-scaler.



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