First oscope uk advice needed?

Ive been learning about electronics for 2 years as a on/off hobby just started really dabbing about with opamps,filters etc i need a cheap but good easy to use oscope for a beginner to experiment and learn from ive been looking in the uk espically ebay but am lost in which one to go for.My bugdet is nomore than 150gbp and would like one with at least 2 channels,probes included and good for measuring signals in the <=20mhz range so if anyone could give me some pointers on what to go for maybe even a link i would be very grateful ?



Cheers
John

You certainly need to look at second had. Even the cheapest Picoscopes cost more than that. This might be worth a look:

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or this:

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or this:

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ignore the fact it says "transmitter" - it is actually an oscilloscope!

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I would probably be tempted by the Hamegs. They are good basic scopes and your probably could get them repaired if necessary.

Keith.

keith1200rs said:

You certainly need to look at second had. Even the cheapest Picoscopes cost more than that. This might be worth a look:

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or this:

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or this:

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ignore the fact it says "transmitter" - it is actually an oscilloscope!

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I would probably be tempted by the Hamegs. They are good basic scopes and your probably could get them repaired if necessary.

Keith.

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Thx for taking the time to post those links.Which in your opion is the better out of the Hamegs you posted for reliability/value for money/performance etc ?

The HM203-7 is 40MHz, as is the Kenwood. The HM203-4 looks like it has a couple of buttons missing. If you can afford it, I would probably go for the HM203-7 but you need to budget for some new probes as well.

Keith.

keith1200rs said:

The HM203-7 is 40MHz, as is the Kenwood. The HM203-4 looks like it has a couple of buttons missing. If you can afford it, I would probably go for the HM203-7 but you need to budget for some new probes as well.

Keith.

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Where can i get a set of probes for the hameg HM203-7 looked on ebay but nothing found ?

Any standard BNC probes will do. These for example:

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Keith.

keith1200rs said:

The HM203-7 is 40MHz, as is the Kenwood. The HM203-4 looks like it has a couple of buttons missing. If you can afford it, I would probably go for the HM203-7 but you need to budget for some new probes as well.

Keith.

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Isant the HM203-7 20mhz not 40mhz ?

You are right - I was looking at the triggering bandwidth. I am not sure what the differences are between the varuious models although the -7 seems to have TV trigger which I cannot see on the -4. The -7 also seems to have a "hold off" which I think is missing on the -4.

Keith.

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I am not sure if Johns Radio still exist - their web site does! Anyway, if their web site is up to date then they have a few Tektronix oscilloscopes which may be of interest: New, Used and Surplus Electrical Equipment from Johns Radio

I used to use M&B radio for my second hand equipment but their web site has virtually nothing on it now so I think they have retired.

Keith.

keith1200rs said:

You are right - I was looking at the triggering bandwidth. I am not sure what the differences are between the varuious models although the -7 seems to have TV trigger which I cannot see on the -4. The -7 also seems to have a "hold off" which I think is missing on the -4.

Keith.

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I am not sure if Johns Radio still exist - their web site does! Anyway, if their web site is up to date then they have a few Tektronix oscilloscopes which may be of interest: New, Used and Surplus Electrical Equipment from Johns Radio

I used to use M&B radio for my second hand equipment but their web site has virtually nothing on it now so I think they have retired.

Keith.

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Okay,i went for the HM203-7 off ebay eventually for 125 gbp +15gbp delivery is that a good deal considering its condition or could i have done better?

crazyjohn

another second-user supplier is Stewart of Reading Oscilloscopes - lower cost ones down the list.....

Would recommend something with a bandwidth of 100MHz if you want to use it fully for "<=20mhz range" with anything other than sinewaves.
Well worth you looking at Tektronix; some models have manuals available at http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/tek/ and the 465/465B could be suitable although with some features you might not yet need.
Probes from CPC or other suppliers, for example: --|PROBE100|OSCILLOSCOPE PROBE - 100MHZ | CPC

One thing to bear in mind is that carriers don't cover CRT's (Glass items) for damage, so it is always best if you can collect from a supplier yourself.

hope this assists
Mik