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Power Dissipation: Virtex2 vs Virtex4

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Power Dissipation,,,

My design disspipates more power on Virtex 4 (1.2V) than Virtex2 (1.5V):S
Any clues what is wrong??
 

Power Dissipation,,,

It sounds like nothing.

why did you expect the V4 to use more power than the V2?
 

Power Dissipation,,,

Because it's supply is less..(Only 1.2V as opposed to 1.5V for Virtex2)
 

Power Dissipation,,,

typically, a lower supply means much lower power dissipation. the dynamic power loss is often quoted as scaling with V^2. thus a 20% drop in supply voltage should result in a 36% drop in power consumption.

Clearly this doesn't take into account any other differences between the V2 and V4.
 

Re: Power Dissipation,,,

"Clearly this doesn't take into account any other differences between the V2 and V4."

What do you mean by this??
 

Power Dissipation,,,

the v2 and v4 are different. Likely, the v4 uses a different process -- smaller transistors ect... Further, design optimizations might be possible on the v4 that weren't possible on the v2. for example, moving some large adders into a dedicated DSP tile as opposed to using fabric.

my point is that it is an oversimplification to say 36% is the power savings. its possible that it would be a little less, or a lot more.
 

Power Dissipation,,,

I had it all mixed up, actually more power is lost in Virex 4...
 

Power Dissipation,,,

the fpga runs on a different power supply, but you have the same power source 5v or higher? so perhap more power are lost in on-board regulators?
 

Power Dissipation,,,

Can you give more details on the resources used, PCB differences and measurement method?

Did you check differences using Xilinx Power Estimtator?
 

I used power analyzer after place and route... and virtex2 pro keeps giving less Pd :S for the exact same design..

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rca,

what you mean is not clear..
V2 works on 1.5V
V5 works on 1.2V

They both have an auxillary voltage of 2.5 though,
 

What specific parts, speeds, and IO are you comparing?

comparing a small V2 to a very large V4 might not be a fair comparison. Likewise, if DCI IO standards are used on a V4, but not the V2, there will be substantial IO power differences.
 

It's exactly the same design...The inputs and logic power dissipation in V2 are the ones greater than in virtex4..
And it's virtex2pro if this makes any difference...
 

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